Talk:Michael Collins: Difference between revisions

From Citizendium
Jump to navigation Jump to search
imported>Anton Sweeney
(Add checklist)
 
imported>Subpagination Bot
m (Add {{subpages}} and remove checklist (details))
 
(4 intermediate revisions by 3 users not shown)
Line 1: Line 1:
{{checklist
{{subpages}}
|                abc = Collins, Michael
 
|                cat1 = History
== Treaty ==
|                cat2 =  
 
|                cat3 =  
We need to include something about Collins' reluctance to leading the negotiations delegation - the "poisoned chalice" of knowing whatever he negotiated would be unacceptable to Dev... [[User:Anton Sweeney|Anton Sweeney]] 04:15, 1 September 2007 (CDT)
|          cat_check = n
:: Coogan (p 227) says he was reluctant because he saw himself as a soldier, not a diplomat. The poison angle was raised AFTER the treaty was signed. [[User:Richard Jensen|Richard Jensen]] 04:31, 1 September 2007 (CDT)
|              status = 3
 
|        underlinked = yes
Another aspect to consider was that Collins didn't want to reveal his identity - remember that he managed to hide his identity from the British authorities in a relatively small city throughout the war, all the while riding his bike through Dublin dressed as a Businessman! [[User:Denis Cavanagh|Denis Cavanagh]] 08:08, 1 September 2007 (CDT)
|            cleanup = yes
|                  by = [[User:Anton Sweeney|Anton Sweeney]] 06:02, 16 August 2007 (CDT)
}}

Latest revision as of 19:39, 10 November 2007

This article is developing and not approved.
Main Article
Discussion
Related Articles  [?]
Bibliography  [?]
External Links  [?]
Citable Version  [?]
 
To learn how to update the categories for this article, see here. To update categories, edit the metadata template.
 Definition Irish revolutionary leader who led negotiations at the Anglo-Irish Treaty. Lead the pro-treaty side during the Irish Civil War. [d] [e]
Checklist and Archives
 Workgroup categories History and Military [Categories OK]
 Talk Archive none  English language variant British English

Treaty

We need to include something about Collins' reluctance to leading the negotiations delegation - the "poisoned chalice" of knowing whatever he negotiated would be unacceptable to Dev... Anton Sweeney 04:15, 1 September 2007 (CDT)

Coogan (p 227) says he was reluctant because he saw himself as a soldier, not a diplomat. The poison angle was raised AFTER the treaty was signed. Richard Jensen 04:31, 1 September 2007 (CDT)

Another aspect to consider was that Collins didn't want to reveal his identity - remember that he managed to hide his identity from the British authorities in a relatively small city throughout the war, all the while riding his bike through Dublin dressed as a Businessman! Denis Cavanagh 08:08, 1 September 2007 (CDT)