Talk:Ñ
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At present, the stuff on Portuguese etc. could be called irrelevant, but perhaps there is room for further discussion of the phoneme, as opposed to just the Spanish grapheme. Ro Thorpe 23:51, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
I'd forgotten about [ɲ]. How exactly does it differ from [nj]? Ro Thorpe 17:50, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
- The difference is slight but can be perceived by certain speakers of the Romances languages: [ɲ] is a single sound whereas [nj] is a succession of two different sounds.--Domergue Sumien 21:12, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
- So it's basically a matter of perception. [ɲ] is a phoneme in French, Spanish, etc., but in English you need two consecutive phomemes, so it may take a little longer. Ro Thorpe 22:52, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
- Interesting explanations are given in this document. Some varieties of Spanish make the difference, others don't.--Domergue Sumien 22:13, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
- Pestaña vs. Alemania, yes, I see, thanks! Ro Thorpe 23:38, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
- Interesting explanations are given in this document. Some varieties of Spanish make the difference, others don't.--Domergue Sumien 22:13, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
- So it's basically a matter of perception. [ɲ] is a phoneme in French, Spanish, etc., but in English you need two consecutive phomemes, so it may take a little longer. Ro Thorpe 22:52, 2 September 2011 (UTC)