Talk:Ice hockey

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 Definition A game, played on ice, which consists of two teams of six players, each attempting to drive a small hard rubber disc called a puck into their opponent's goal net. [d] [e]
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Name

There's a dialect difference on the name of this game. In North America, the game played on ice is simply "hockey" and the related game played on grass is "field hockey". Various other parts of the English-speaking world call the game played on grass "hockey" and the one on ice "ice hockey". As a Canadian, I of course want to move this article to "hockey"; the term "ice hockey" strikes me as an abomination.

I'm not sure what CZ should do about this. Perhaps "hockey" needs to be a disambiguation page?

A similar problem turns up with football; text there might be a model for how to deal with it. Sandy Harris 02:25, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

I don't wanna get involved with something like this, hehe! But probably the discussion at the football page would show how it should be handled. As I recall, *that* problem was eventually resolved.... Hayford Peirce 02:55, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
Based on the football page, I'm inclined to move Ice Hockey to Hockey, since hockey is a Canadian sport and that's what we call it in Canada. But I'm sure field hockey players in the country field hockey was invented in would advance the same argument. Maybe we can have "Hockey, ice" and "Hockey, field". Esther Fraser 03:14, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
It would be Hockey (ice) and Hockey (field), with the parentheses, I'm pretty sure. Hayford Peirce 03:48, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure where it was invented, maybe the UK, but field hockey is quite widespread and very popular in India, and they call it "hockey". [1] calls it India's national game. Googling "hockey India" turns up many other sites, like [2]. Sandy Harris 04:07, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
I think "hockey" has to be a disambig page with links to the two main games and several lesser ones — floor hockey, street hockey, roller hockey, ... Sandy Harris 04:20, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
Yes, a disambig page for Hockey, then separate articles about the others, probably with the usual parentheses. Hayford Peirce 04:32, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Rule?

I can't find a rule in the IIHF rulebook to support the claim that "international rules allow body checks only behind the blue lines" and I honestly can't remember that being a rule, but don't want to edit that out in case I've just missed it. I think it should be removed if we can't find a reference for it, though. It seems to me that specific rules should be cited.

Tangentially related, I want to cite the rule books multiple times. Is there a way to do that without creating a new footnote for each citation? Esther Fraser 03:09, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm not completely sure on the blue line rule. I wrote that based on what I recall from explanations I heard back at the time of the first NHL vs Soviet (that dates it!) series. I might have mis-remembered, or my info might be out of date.
Multiple citations are easy. The first can be <ref name=whatever>....</ref> and then later ones are just <ref name=whatever />. I do not recall if you need quotes around the name. Sandy Harris 03:18, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
I've done a little searching on the blue line rule and cannot find it. Go ahead & take it out. Sandy Harris 10:55, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Ok! It's out. Sorry it took me forever. I've been moving. Thanks for the multiple citations info, too. Esther Fraser 02:52, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Permission

I have written to the IIHF and received permission to use five images from the rulebook via email. The diagrams "Division of rink surface" and "Goal crease perspective" and the photographs "Calling of penalty", "A goal" and "Making a call" are displayed here with permission. Since the permission was obtained via email, I've uploaded a screenshot. I modified it to cover my personal email address only.

Permission to use IIHF graphics.jpg

Esther Fraser 02:00, 22 June 2010 (UTC)