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==Should this article be kept or deleted?==
A deletion proposal was placed on this article on 2024-03-16, without, however offering any explanation as to the concerns that triggered it.
A third party might guess it was one or more of the following... because:
# It hadn't been edited since 2011, and was out of date...
# It was entirely the work of Howard Berkowitz, and, although he was a trusted editor, at the time, experience has shown the quality of his work could be extremely uneven.
Well, should this article be deleted?
I don't think so.
Director of National Intelligence  is, I believe, a cabinet level position, so I don't think anyone could reasonably claim the office isn't important enough figure to justify an article.
In General I would argue against strongly deleting material merely because Howard wrote it.
Candidly, [[User:George Swan|George Swan]] ([[User talk:George Swan|talk]]) 21:51, 20 April 2024 (CDT)
:This article was proposed for deletion for other reasons.  I have decided we should keep it, but it required extensive revisions to be decent enough for keeping.  I will NOT have time to revise all such articles, and some will be deleted instead.  Also, although the DNI is "cabinet-level", that person is not necessarily (or even usually) a member of the U.S. Cabinet.  However, a given president could invite the sitting DNI to be a member of his or her cabinet.  The current DNI is not a Cabinet member.  Also, this position is not very visible to the public and they do not carry great name recognition for the public.  Since there is no one here to maintain the list of past DNI's, I removed that section.  Wikipedia keeps that list up to date anyway. [[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] ([[User talk:Pat Palmer|talk]]) 10:56, 21 April 2024 (CDT)
== explanation ==
In order to make the process of updating easier I [https://citizendium.org/wiki/index.php?title=Director_of_National_Intelligence&diff=953694&oldid=953689 trimmed out] the subsections on the DNI's subordinates.  These are, arguably, separate topics, anyway.  [[User:George Swan|George Swan]] ([[User talk:George Swan|talk]]) 23:02, 20 April 2024 (CDT)

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Should this article be kept or deleted?

A deletion proposal was placed on this article on 2024-03-16, without, however offering any explanation as to the concerns that triggered it.

A third party might guess it was one or more of the following... because:

  1. It hadn't been edited since 2011, and was out of date...
  2. It was entirely the work of Howard Berkowitz, and, although he was a trusted editor, at the time, experience has shown the quality of his work could be extremely uneven.

Well, should this article be deleted?

I don't think so.

Director of National Intelligence is, I believe, a cabinet level position, so I don't think anyone could reasonably claim the office isn't important enough figure to justify an article.

In General I would argue against strongly deleting material merely because Howard wrote it.

Candidly, George Swan (talk) 21:51, 20 April 2024 (CDT)

This article was proposed for deletion for other reasons. I have decided we should keep it, but it required extensive revisions to be decent enough for keeping. I will NOT have time to revise all such articles, and some will be deleted instead. Also, although the DNI is "cabinet-level", that person is not necessarily (or even usually) a member of the U.S. Cabinet. However, a given president could invite the sitting DNI to be a member of his or her cabinet. The current DNI is not a Cabinet member. Also, this position is not very visible to the public and they do not carry great name recognition for the public. Since there is no one here to maintain the list of past DNI's, I removed that section. Wikipedia keeps that list up to date anyway. Pat Palmer (talk) 10:56, 21 April 2024 (CDT)

explanation

In order to make the process of updating easier I trimmed out the subsections on the DNI's subordinates. These are, arguably, separate topics, anyway. George Swan (talk) 23:02, 20 April 2024 (CDT)