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The '''''tertium quids''''' (sometimes shortened to '''quids''') refers to different factions of the [[United States]] [[Democratic-Republican Party (United States)|Democratic-Republican Party]] during the [[First Party Sytsem]], especially 1804-1812. In Latin, the term means "a third something". ''Quid'' was a disparaging term that referred to cross-party coalitions of [[Federalist Party_(United States)|Federalist]]s and moderate Democratic-Republicans.  
The '''Quids''' (or '''tertium quids''') were different factions of the American [[Democratic-Republican Party|Jeffersonian Republican]] during the [[First Party Sytsem]], especially 1804-1812. In Latin, the term ''tertium quid'' means "a third something". ''Quid'' was a disparaging term that referred to cross-party coalitions of [[Federalist Party|Federalist]]s and moderate Republicans.  


The term was first used in [[Pennsylvania]] in 1804, referring to a faction of the Democratic-Republican party called "the Society of Constitutional Republicans."  They gathered Federalist support and in 1805 re-elected Governor [[Thomas McKean]], who had been elected by a united Democratic-Republican party in 1802 but had broken with the majority wing of the party. In [[New York state]] the term was applied to the Democratic-Republican faction that remained loyal to Governor [[Morgan Lewis]] after he was repudiated by the Democratic-Republican majority led by [[DeWitt Clinton]]. The two "quid" factions had no connection with one other at the federal level; both supported President [[Thomas Jefferson]].
The term was first used in Pennsylvania in 1804, referring to a faction of the Republican party called "the Society of Constitutional Republicans."  They gathered Federalist support and in 1805 re-elected Governor [[Thomas McKean]], who had been elected by a united Republican party in 1802 but had broken with the majority wing of the party. In New York state the term was applied to the Republican faction that remained loyal to Governor [[Morgan Lewis]] after he was repudiated by the Republican majority led by [[DeWitt Clinton]]. The two "quid" factions had no connection with one other at the federal level; both supported President [[Thomas Jefferson]].


When Virginia Congressman [[John Randolph of Roanoke]] broke with Jefferson and [[James Madison]] in 1806, his Congressional faction was called "quids." Randolph was the leader of the "Old Republican" faction that insisted on strict adherence to the Constitution and opposed any innovations. He made no effort to align with either quid faction in the states and made no effort to build a third party at the federal level. Randolph supported [[James Monroe]] against Madison during the runup to the presidential election of 1808, but the state quids supported Madison. They were led by Randolph, who had started as Jefferson's leader in the House and became his bitterest enemy. Randolph denounced the [[Yazoo land scandal|Yazoo Purchase]] compromise of 1804 as totally corrupt. After Randolph failed in the impeachment of a Supreme Court justice in 1805, he became embittered with Jefferson and Madison, complaining, "Everything and everybody seem to be jumbled out of place, except a few men who are steeped in supine indifference, whilst meddling fools and designing knaves are governing the country. . . ." [Risjord 42]. He refused to help fund Jefferson's secret purchase of [[Florida]] from [[Spain]]. Increasingly, Randolph felt that Jefferson was adopting Federalist policies and betraying the true party spirit. He wrote to an ally that "the Administration....favors federal principles, and, with the exception of a few great rival characters, federal men.... The old {Democratic-) Republican party is already ruined, past redemption. New men and new maxims are the order of the day." [Risjord 47] Randolph's increasingly strident rhetoric limited his influence, and he was never able to build a coalition to stop Jefferson.  However, many of his supporters lived on and, by 1824, looked to [[Andrew Jackson]] to resurrect what they called "Old Republicanism."   
When Virginia Congressman [[John Randolph of Roanoke]] broke with Jefferson and [[James Madison]] in 1806, his Congressional faction was called "quids." Randolph was the leader of the "Old Republican" faction that insisted on strict adherence to the Constitution and opposed any innovations. He made no effort to align with either quid faction in the states and made no effort to build a third party at the federal level. Randolph supported [[James Monroe]] against Madison during the runup to the presidential election of 1808, but the state quids supported Madison. They were led by Randolph, who had started as Jefferson's leader in the House and became his bitterest enemy. Randolph denounced the Yazoo Purchase compromise of 1804 as totally corrupt. After Randolph failed in the impeachment of a Supreme Court justice in 1805, he became embittered with Jefferson and Madison, complaining, "Everything and everybody seem to be jumbled out of place, except a few men who are steeped in supine indifference, whilst meddling fools and designing knaves are governing the country."<ref>Risjord p. 42</ref> He refused to help fund Jefferson's secret purchase of [[Florida]] from Spain. Increasingly, Randolph felt that Jefferson was adopting Federalist policies and betraying the true party spirit. He wrote to an ally that "the Administration....favors federal principles, and, with the exception of a few great rival characters, federal men.... The old Republican party is already ruined, past redemption. New men and new maxims are the order of the day." <ref>Risjord 47</ref> Randolph's increasingly strident rhetoric limited his influence, and he was never able to build a coalition to stop Jefferson.  However, many of his supporters lived on and, by 1824, looked to [[Andrew Jackson]] to resurrect what they called "Old Republicanism."   


==References==
==References==
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* [[John Randolph of Roanoke]]
* [[John Randolph of Roanoke]]


==External link ==
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* [http://www.tertiumquids.org/ Tertium Quids-Modern Virginia political advocacy organization; libertarian]
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Revision as of 15:36, 11 June 2007

The Quids (or tertium quids) were different factions of the American Jeffersonian Republican during the First Party Sytsem, especially 1804-1812. In Latin, the term tertium quid means "a third something". Quid was a disparaging term that referred to cross-party coalitions of Federalists and moderate Republicans.

The term was first used in Pennsylvania in 1804, referring to a faction of the Republican party called "the Society of Constitutional Republicans." They gathered Federalist support and in 1805 re-elected Governor Thomas McKean, who had been elected by a united Republican party in 1802 but had broken with the majority wing of the party. In New York state the term was applied to the Republican faction that remained loyal to Governor Morgan Lewis after he was repudiated by the Republican majority led by DeWitt Clinton. The two "quid" factions had no connection with one other at the federal level; both supported President Thomas Jefferson.

When Virginia Congressman John Randolph of Roanoke broke with Jefferson and James Madison in 1806, his Congressional faction was called "quids." Randolph was the leader of the "Old Republican" faction that insisted on strict adherence to the Constitution and opposed any innovations. He made no effort to align with either quid faction in the states and made no effort to build a third party at the federal level. Randolph supported James Monroe against Madison during the runup to the presidential election of 1808, but the state quids supported Madison. They were led by Randolph, who had started as Jefferson's leader in the House and became his bitterest enemy. Randolph denounced the Yazoo Purchase compromise of 1804 as totally corrupt. After Randolph failed in the impeachment of a Supreme Court justice in 1805, he became embittered with Jefferson and Madison, complaining, "Everything and everybody seem to be jumbled out of place, except a few men who are steeped in supine indifference, whilst meddling fools and designing knaves are governing the country."[1] He refused to help fund Jefferson's secret purchase of Florida from Spain. Increasingly, Randolph felt that Jefferson was adopting Federalist policies and betraying the true party spirit. He wrote to an ally that "the Administration....favors federal principles, and, with the exception of a few great rival characters, federal men.... The old Republican party is already ruined, past redemption. New men and new maxims are the order of the day." [2] Randolph's increasingly strident rhetoric limited his influence, and he was never able to build a coalition to stop Jefferson. However, many of his supporters lived on and, by 1824, looked to Andrew Jackson to resurrect what they called "Old Republicanism."

References

  • Noble E. Cunningham, Jr. "Who Were the Quids?" in The Mississippi Valley Historical Review Vol. 50, No. 2 (Sep., 1963), pp. 252-263 in JSTOR at [1]
  • Norman K. Risjord; The Old Republicans: Southern Conservatism in the Age of Jefferson (1965) the standard history of the Randolph faction.
  • Andrew Shankman. "Malcontents and Tertium Quids: The Battle to Define Democracy in Jeffersonian Philadelphia" Journal of the Early Republic, Vol. 19, No. 1 (Spring, 1999) , pp. 43-72 in JSTOR

See also


  1. Risjord p. 42
  2. Risjord 47