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This interval has serious implications for the various [[musical tuning|tuning]] schemes of the [[chromatic scale]], because in Western music, [[circle of fifths|twelve perfect fifths]] and seven octaves are treated as the same interval. [[Equal temperament]], today the most common tuning system used in the West, accomplished this by flattening each fifth by a twelfth of a Pythagorean comma (two cents), thus giving perfect octaves.
This interval has serious implications for the various [[musical tuning|tuning]] schemes of the [[chromatic scale]], because in Western music, [[circle of fifths|twelve perfect fifths]] and seven octaves are treated as the same interval. [[Equal temperament]], today the most common tuning system used in the West, accomplished this by flattening each fifth by a twelfth of a Pythagorean comma (two cents), thus giving perfect octaves.


[[China|Chinese]] mathematicians had been aware of the Pythagorean comma as early as 122 [[Common Era|BCE]] (its calculation is detailed in the ''[[Huainanzi]]''), and in about 50 BCE [[Ching Fang]] discovered that if the cycle of perfect fifths was continued beyond twelve all the way to fifty-three, the difference between this fifty-third pitch and the starting pitch would be much smaller than the Pythagorean comma; this difference was later named "[[Nicholas Mercator|Mercator]]'s comma".
Despite its name, the Pythagorean comma was first described in the West by [[pseudo-Euclid]] in ''Divisions of the Canon'' (c. 300 [[Common Era|BCE]]). [[China|Chinese]] mathematicians were aware of the Pythagorean comma as early as 122 [[Common Era|BCE]] (its calculation is detailed in the ''[[Huainanzi]]''), and in about 50 BCE [[Ching Fang]] discovered that if the cycle of perfect fifths was continued beyond twelve all the way to fifty-three, the difference between this fifty-third pitch and the starting pitch would be much smaller than the Pythagorean comma; this difference was later named "[[Nicholas Mercator|Mercator]]'s comma".


Other intervals of similar sizes are the [[syntonic comma]] and the [[Holdrian comma]].
Other intervals of a similar size are the [[syntonic comma]] and the [[Holdrian comma]].


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*[http://www.jomarpress.com/nagel/articles/PythagoreanComma.html "The 'Pythagorean Comma'"] — Jody Nagel
*[http://www.jomarpress.com/nagel/articles/PythagoreanComma.html "The 'Pythagorean Comma'"] — Jody Nagel


 
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A Pythagorean comma is a microtonal musical interval, named after the ancient mathematician and philosopher Pythagoras. It is sometimes called a ditonic comma.

A comma is a very small musical interval between a note formed by one cycle of just intervals and the same note formed by another cycle of different just intervals. When ascending from an initial (low) pitch by a cycle of justly tuned perfect fifths (ratio 3:2), leapfrogging twelve times, one eventually reaches a pitch approximately seven whole octaves above the starting pitch. If this pitch is then lowered precisely seven octaves, the resulting pitch is (a very small amount over) 23.46 cents higher than the initial pitch. This microtonal interval is a Pythagorean comma:

That is, twelve perfect fifths are not exactly equal to seven perfect octaves, and the Pythagorean comma is the amount of the discrepancy.

This interval has serious implications for the various tuning schemes of the chromatic scale, because in Western music, twelve perfect fifths and seven octaves are treated as the same interval. Equal temperament, today the most common tuning system used in the West, accomplished this by flattening each fifth by a twelfth of a Pythagorean comma (two cents), thus giving perfect octaves.

Despite its name, the Pythagorean comma was first described in the West by pseudo-Euclid in Divisions of the Canon (c. 300 BCE). Chinese mathematicians were aware of the Pythagorean comma as early as 122 BCE (its calculation is detailed in the Huainanzi), and in about 50 BCE Ching Fang discovered that if the cycle of perfect fifths was continued beyond twelve all the way to fifty-three, the difference between this fifty-third pitch and the starting pitch would be much smaller than the Pythagorean comma; this difference was later named "Mercator's comma".

Other intervals of a similar size are the syntonic comma and the Holdrian comma.

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