User talk:Milton Beychok

 Where Milt lives it is approximately: 21:13

Welcome!

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Milton - I've given a partial reply to your question over at Roger Lohmann's talk page. Welcome aboard! Anthony Argyriou 17:36, 21 January 2008 (CST)

CZ wikilinks

Milton- when adjusting links for CZ articles, please make the changes to the links within the article and not within the reference item. This way, if it's a 'redlink' then it will have enhanced visibility and might spurn article creation--if it's a 'bluelink', then it is more likely to be visited than if it was scuttled away in the depths of the references. --Robert W King 09:51, 29 January 2008 (CST)

Robert, thanks for the advice. I will do as you say in the future. - Milton Beychok 11:05, 29 January 2008 (CST)

Article on Garbage

Milton, I had started a stub about Garbage a few weeks ago, and given your background (I just noticed on the EPA page) would you be interested in contributing to it? --Robert W King 13:23, 31 January 2008 (CST)

Robert, thanks for asking me. I still have about eight or so articles lined up in my mind to do. And I really have no expertise in solid waste. So I think I will have to pass on your offer.

You have been in Citizendium since April 2007 and I've been here just for a few weeks. Perhaps you might take a brief look at the each of the seven articles that I have contributed (listed on my user page) and tell me what you think of them. - Milton Beychok 14:43, 31 January 2008 (CST)

Image size

Regarding Image:Motiva_Petroleum_Refinery.jpg, it's good to upload the largest version of the file available. It's more useful to reusers that way. :-) Stephen Ewen 02:43, 2 February 2008 (CST)

Stephen, my primary reason for having uploaded a cropped version of the photo was that I wanted to emphasize the pollution plume from the refinery's flare ... because the photo was to be used in the Air pollution dispersion terminology article.

When you revised my upload to the larger size, the flare's plume is now barely visible in the photo in that article ... which defeats my whole purpose for uploading the photo.

As a compromise, I would like to upload my version again under a different name (Image:Motiva Refinery Flare.jpg). In other words, there would be two versions available. Would that be agreeable with you? - Milton Beychok 10:40, 2 February 2008 (CST)

I replied here. Stephen Ewen 11:10, 2 February 2008 (CST)

Topic Informants Workgroup

Milt, I emailed you. Stephen Ewen 01:25, 3 February 2008 (CST)

Stephen, I have not recieved your email as yet. My address is mbeychok@cox.net. - Milton Beychok 01:56, 3 February 2008 (CST)

chemical images

Milton, send me a note for any of your excellent articles that you would like a chemical drawing of. I can whip them out in a few minutes for you. David E. Volk 13:28, 4 February 2008 (CST)

Thanks, David. When the need arises, I'll take you up on your offer. - Milton Beychok 15:32, 4 February 2008 (CST)

chemical engineering/chemistry

Dear Milton, if you would add [[Category: Chemistry Workgroup]] to your chemical engineering articles, I could help you in approving them, as I'm a chemistry editor. The CZ system is somewhat bureaucratic in that I cannot do it otherwise (although I have an MSc in chemical engineering from Delft University of Technology).--Paul Wormer 03:16, 5 February 2008 (CST)

Paul, thank you and I will add that category. - Milton Beychok 11:27, 5 February 2008 (CST)

can you point me in the right direction in learning about air pollution from long beach and la's ports?

Is it true that the majority of the smog causing particles / chemicals actually come from ships that cannot be easily regulated since they are considered to be in international waters?

Is 'playing-down-the-middle' Governator (so that he can win California US senator) going to address this issue?

I mainly find news sources for LA Smog problems; where would I find a good review paper on LA Smog? Where can I learn about political efforts and grass root campaigns which are trying to enact change?

Sorry that my comments are so biased and full of opinion (they will not appear on any article on smog related topics). Glad you are part of the CZ team and I look forward to reading all of your articles. Tom Kelly 01:25, 6 February 2008 (CST)

Tom, the best place you could seek such information would be from the Southern California Air Quality Management District (SCAQMD). Their website is at www.scaqmd.gov and there you will find their address and their contact information. I happen to think that they do a very good job and are very knowledgeable.

The biggest contributors by far to our smog problems in the LA basin are automotive vehicles (cars, busses and trucks). - Milton Beychok 01:58, 6 February 2008 (CST)

Thank you for your advice and insight. Tom Kelly 15:10, 6 February 2008 (CST)

Approval

Milton, I'm prepared to carefully read Petroleum refining processes and to approve it (maybe I will see fit to make some small changes, I don't know yet). However, before I do this you should know that approval has two disadvantages:

1. Your authorship becomes hidden, history will show Matt Innis and Larry Sanger as sole contributors. Personally I don't mind this, but some people do.
2. Your article will be locked, you cannot change anything anymore. For me this is the reason not to go for approval of my articles. I have one approved article, Van der Waals equation, and several times I felt the urge to change something in it, but couldn't.

To tell you the truth: I don't know any advantage of approval. Anyhow, let me know if you want me to approve Petroleum refining processes. Cheers --Paul Wormer 03:38, 6 February 2008 (CST)

Paul, changes are made to the draft and that become re-approved. Moreover, the history of contributors is preserved if the process is done correctly, e.g., see the history at Butler. Stephen Ewen 10:04, 6 February 2008 (CST)

Paul, the answer is yes. I would like you to participate in the approval process for Petroleum refining processes. Thanks very much, - Milton Beychok 11:42, 6 February 2008 (CST)

Milton, Matt answered your questions on my talk page.--Paul Wormer 07:56, 9 February 2008 (CST)

Congratulations! Keep them coming! [1] --D. Matt Innis 01:20, 10 February 2008 (CST)

Hi Milton, in reference to the good question you left on my talk page; yes, you've got the right idea, the draft and the approved version are now the same. From here, as contributers edit the draft, the approved version will remain he same. At some point, the entire process will repeat with an editor (or three, depending on the method) nominating that the draft replace the approved version. This can happen in the next few days or it may stay the same for months. I have found that there are occasionally some quick changes that get made in the next few weeks that update the approved page, then it pretty much remains stable from then on. You might also be interested to notice that the article that you were working on was 'moved' to the draft page rather than 'copied'. That way the history went with the draft so that, as the article progresses, the history remains the same from day one. --D. Matt Innis 19:10, 10 February 2008 (CST)