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==Comment==
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:But Google implies that it should be spelled "Tecum Uman"? [[User:Yi Zhe Wu|Yi Zhe Wu]] 20:01, 8 June 2007 (CDT)
:But Google implies that it should be spelled "Tecum Uman"? [[User:Yi Zhe Wu|Yi Zhe Wu]] 20:01, 8 June 2007 (CDT)


::Well, it's most often spelled "Tecún Umán," actually.  I used "Tecum Umam" because it is the name he is given in colonial era K'iche' documents like the Título K'oyoi.  Also see the section about his name in the article or if you read Spanish, take a look at [http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=3&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.popolvuh.ufm.edu.gt%2FAkkerenTU.pdf this paper].[[User:Joe Quick|--Joe Quick]]  ([[User talk:Joe Quick|Talk]]) 21:05, 8 June 2007 (CDT)
::Well, it's most often spelled "Tecún Umán," actually.  I used "Tecum Umam" because it is the name he is given in colonial era K'iche' documents like the Título K'oyoi.  It was also [http://books.google.com/books?id=4e8MAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA177&lpg=PA177&dq=tecum+umam&source=web&ots=wJOeqRry3x&sig=Gd4GBpB42wnS1JEtmmFeGiYyWMo#PPA177,M1 the preferred name] used well into the the 19th century by North American explorers like John L. Stephens. Also see the section about his name in the article or if you read Spanish, take a look at [http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=3&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.popolvuh.ufm.edu.gt%2FAkkerenTU.pdf this paper].[[User:Joe Quick|--Joe Quick]]  ([[User talk:Joe Quick|Talk]]) 21:05, 8 June 2007 (CDT)

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Comment

Very nice work so far, Joe. :-) Stephen Ewen 18:24, 11 April 2007 (CDT)

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Having finished the last of my major planned revisions, I've changed the article status to "developed." While this article could probably benefit from a variety of small changes and stylistic copyediting, I consider it finished. To the best of my knowledge, it is both accurate and complete and it should be ready for approval as soon as a qualified editor comes along (or one of the current ones decides that s/he is qualified).  ;-) --Joe Quick (Talk) 18:09, 13 April 2007 (CDT)

Suggestions: 1) remove all the headings and go over it to make sure it reads as one narrative whole, then re-add them. 2) "The jury is still out"--just too much of a cliche, I think. Very nice work, otherwise! Stephen Ewen 03:43, 23 May 2007 (CDT)
1)Doesn't work for me. Removing headers, building bridges and then re-adding headers tends to do little but make my writing redundant and contrived. Others are certainly welcome to try - we can always revert if it gets to be too ridiculous.
2)Agreed.  :-) I thought so even as I typed it. If anyone can come up with a better transition, I encourage you to be bold. --Joe Quick (Talk) 12:14, 23 May 2007 (CDT)

Check this out

First hit, top of the list:

http://www.google.com/search?q=Tecum+Umam&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Stephen Ewen 19:20, 8 June 2007 (CDT)

But Google implies that it should be spelled "Tecum Uman"? Yi Zhe Wu 20:01, 8 June 2007 (CDT)
Well, it's most often spelled "Tecún Umán," actually. I used "Tecum Umam" because it is the name he is given in colonial era K'iche' documents like the Título K'oyoi. It was also the preferred name used well into the the 19th century by North American explorers like John L. Stephens. Also see the section about his name in the article or if you read Spanish, take a look at this paper.--Joe Quick (Talk) 21:05, 8 June 2007 (CDT)