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|{{Periodic cell | eName = Boron | eSym = B }}
The problem with [[Wikipedia]] ultimately is that anyone at all could edit it. There are some people who are just malicious. They register with a random name, vandalize some pages, and if they get banned they could just register with another name. IP blocking doesn't work because
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* most home internet users have dynamic IP
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* most users on school/university/library computers have just one IP, meaning that if that IP is blocked other users who are not vandals are also blocked
|{{Periodic cell | eName = Oxygen | eSym = O }}
While it's true that anonymous editors are not all evil-natured, a lot of energy is wasted on Wikipedia handling trolls and vandals. Energy that could've been used to improve article quality in general.
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|{{Periodic cell | eName = Neon | eSym = Ne}}
Citizendium is one step better by insisting that everybody registers with their own name, but even here there is no control whatsoever. Technically, it is still possible for someone to register as another name. We should implement email confirmations and IP check before each approval of new registration --[[User:Christian Liem|Christian Liem]] 17:02, 8 December 2006 (CST)
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:We do require e-mail confirmation.  I don't know what you mean by "IP check." --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 19:29, 8 December 2006 (CST)
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::He means checking to see which computer is being used. [[User:Nancy Sculerati MD|Nancy Sculerati MD]] 20:03, 8 December 2006 (CST)
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:::Most online forums have a facility where administrators and moderators could see which members are online, what page they are reading/editing, and their IP addresses. This makes it much easier for them to avoid vandalism. If every Citizendium admin spends 10 minutes less per day protecting pages and blocking users, this time and energy could be used to write quality articles. I don't even have to mention how many Wikipedia admins have lost heart and given up because of troll actions. --[[User:Christian Liem|Christian Liem]] 12:42, 9 December 2006 (CST)
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::::Thanks for the clarification.  Still, I don't know what constables would be checking ''for'' when doing an IP check to prevent vandalism and trolling.  Would there be an IP address blacklist that constables would have to check against, for example? --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 13:12, 12 December 2006 (CST)
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Using technology as our tool, the only suggestions I can think of are to:-
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* limit scipts abilities to wreak havock using a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hashcash hashcash]] system when contributing edits (javascript hashcash in the browser is fine)
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* Sponsor a verification scheme of sending a couple of cents to a bank account (in their name) and ask the user how much arrived to verify their identity.
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These ideas sound strange if you have not participated in this sort of verification before, as with paypal registered merchants and the like, but it is common now and as a double verification it could be funded by a token 'membership fee' of 10 cents each for new accounts, to keep the system liquid.  Make gag prizes out of it and it can become an eccentric initiation ritual of the community rather than our steely-eyed stand against the vandals.
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These are some technological deterrents that could be built to minimise wasted efforts, but the greatest solutions are still the social ones.  Real names rock.  How serious are you about it Larry?  --[[User:Grant Sparks|Grant Sparks]] 07:21, 26 February 2007 (CST)
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I think eventually we might have to encourage credit card verification as the default method of verifying identity, and perhaps we might require a virtual (not actual) "deposit." But any such thing would cost money we don't presently have. --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 09:22, 26 February 2007 (CST)
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Unlike the United States, where I recently lived for 4 years (Austin, TX), here in Australia it is still uncommon for people who are under 20 years old to even have a credit card.  They are becoming more adopted every day, yet a very large portion of our younger (and also senior) society do not own or use credit cards.  My home has 8 people from 9 y/o to 91 y/o, and we have only 3 credit cards between us.  Most of our friends are similar.  We live 15 minutes from the city centre of our state capital.
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I'd hate to see what it would be like for citizens in a third-world nation.  Please folks, don't go down the credit card verification path.  --[[User:Grant Sparks|Grant Sparks]] 03:07, 1 March 2007 (CST)
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Of course we will always have alternate means of verification. --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 09:40, 1 March 2007 (CST)
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