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==computer articles==
[[User talk:Robert Tito/Archive 1]]
"Hi David, Is your list in computers going to be extensive or an example of what is and what is needed? It might be easier to start from the Computers page and scrolling down and copying in present and lacking articles. That way we are not creating a clutter os loose threads without coherence. Let me hear your thoughts on it please. Robert Tito | Talk 22:07, 21 February 2007 (CST)"
 
Actually, I was just trying to make sure the article I created was not an isolated orphan. I'll link to it from the "See also" section in Computers.
--[[User:David Marcoe|David Marcoe]] 22:34, 21 February 2007 (CST)
 
Added some fundamentals to the chemistry pages as it was not clear that contrary to physics chemistry deals only with the interactions between electrons or physical forces with electron(s).
 
==The Human Skeletal System==
What do you mean by this comment on my discussion page? What does "nowiki'd" mean? I am new here:
 
    "I nowiki'd the human skeletal anatomy as that is a subset of the human anatomy system. I hope you can agree, else - remove the nowiki's.
Robert Tito | Talk 22:13, 15 February 2007 (CST) "
 
It was never my intention to create a disconnected page in isolation. Yes, the human skeletal system is a subset of human anatomy, which wiki page I created because it didn't exist. Human anatomy is a subset of Anatomy, which page I also created. Anatomy is a subset of Morphology, which page I also created. If you go to the Biology page now, you will find that, if you click on the Anatomy link, it will lead you now through anatomy and human anatomy to skeletal anatomy.
You have to understand that pages don't just appear full grown. They have to be built up and, in a lot of cases the basic structure isn't even there yet. So, if you've done something that will make my hard work disappear, please undo it now.
 
--David Hume.
 
Robert Tito | Talk 22:13, 15 February 2007 (CST)
== Chemistry page ==
 
I added a sentence on the problem you requested. I had removed it because I consider that a description of bonding was probably best left to the  "Bonding" section. Do you like it now? [[User:Pedro Silva|Pedro Silva]] 09:09, 10 November 2006 (CST)
 
== bio ==
 
I received a masters in physical chemistry and biochemistry in 1982 from the free university of amsterdam and was awarded a doctorate at the leiden university in physical chemistry on a study on the dynamic behavior of partially charged polyelectrolytes in a bad solvent in the very diluted regime.
 
After that I did quite some research for privately held companies that didn't allow publication of the researches executed. Slowly moving away from chemictry toward process automation and interactions with databases I became more and more interested with the concept of active databasemanagement in laborotory situations - extending towards office automation and distributed computer problems.
 
Nowadays I lecture at the holland highschool (college) as well at the the hague highschool.
Other projects involve knowledge management problems and semantics within computer sciences as well as cryptography problems.
 
== Database question ==
 
Hi Rob,
 
On the notice board, you asked
 
:In the Computer Science part only Relational Databases are mentioned, not flat file databases, record structure databases or Hierarchical databases. Is this on purpose?
:Thanks for any answers, If not on purpose I can add these pages.
 
:regards
 
:Rob
 
Please see my answer on [[Talk:Database]]. --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 15:30, 12 November 2006 (CST)
 
==Chemistry workgroup==
 
I set up a preliminary [[Citizendium_Pilot:Chemistry_Workgroup|Chemistry Workgroup]] and listed you there as an editor. [[User:Fred Salsbury|Fred Salsbury]] 07:58, 21 November 2006 (CST)
 
== [[Computer]] ==
 
See my answer on [[Talk:Computer]]; also, when signing messages, it's best to use 4 tildes (like this -> <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> ), as that will turn into a link to your user page, and the date, which is the conentional signing form on the wiki.  Thanks! [[User:JesseWeinstein|JesseWeinstein]] 16:09, 24 November 2006 (CST)
 
== the Status and the nature of wiki's ==
 
I wonder what we want the nature and status of CZ to be: neutral in all its content or colored based upon culture, politics or personal opinions.
So far the latter leads only to more biased reproductions of facts - nearly all mingled with personal opinions and trying to bring personal thoughts as being factual.
As an example: whether or not anyone is for the death penalty. That is an opinion, not something accepted in many countries. In most if not all european countries talking about the capital punishment is allowed - sure why not, but impossible to implement due to constitutions. And rightfully so - any culture claiming to be of high moral value should ask that same question: does it show any high level of ethics to maintain the capital punishment or does it show the old rule of an eye for an eye.
As Mahatma Ghandi said: an eye for an eye makes the world blind.
 
== Cycles Research ==
Robert, thanks for the welcome. My interest in joining citizendium is cycles research which is an interdisciplinary field covering all manner of subjects - economics, biology, geology, astronomy, physics, history, etc etc. Therefore it doesn't sit neatly in the scheme of subjects unless added in its own right (which I generally find people object to). Any suggestions are welcome. I consider myself an expert in cycles research with a smattering of knowledge in many other fields. I would like to be an Author and Editor regarding cycles subjects. If this is possible then I will start making some contributions. [[User:RayTomes|RayTomes]] 22:45, 29 January 2007 (CST)
 
== [[User:Jeff Cook]] ==
 
I believe that block was made in error -- he was a victim, not a vandal.  [[User:Shanya Almafeta|Shanya Almafeta]] 21:59, 30 January 2007 (CST)
 
 
== Vandalism ==
 
I don't know if the Vandalism is over yet. For some reason, your message on my discussion page is not showing.--[[User:Ruth Ifcher|Ruth Ifcher]] 22:30, 30 January 2007 (CST)
I would suggest that Nancy protect her page for the evening, if the vandalism is upsetting her. But, remind her to unprotect it tomorrow.--[[User:Ruth Ifcher|Ruth Ifcher]] 22:40, 30 January 2007 (CST)
 
I saw that your user page has been vandalised. I hope you get the problem under control. [[User:Stefan von Berg|Stefan von Berg]]
 
have a look at the following article:
[[Proatheris]] [[User:Stefan von Berg|Stefan von Berg]]
I just got there by chance.
 
==Speedydelete template==
 
Why did you delete the speedy delete template?  We ultimately could use one so that people can tag pages and categories and all constables would have to do is check a category every once in a while.  -- [[User:ZachPruckowski|ZachPruckowski]] 22:50, 30 January 2007 (CST)
 
I, too, thought this was strange.  [[User:Shanya Almafeta|Shanya Almafeta]] 22:51, 30 January 2007 (CST)
 
I guess it could have looked like I was asking for a delete with a page with the word delete in it.  Heat of the moment with vandalism flying, it happens :-)  I'll just remake it when I get a chance, no big deal -- [[User:ZachPruckowski|ZachPruckowski]] 22:53, 30 January 2007 (CST)
 
Oh, the vandals had been using that template?  That explains a lot.  my bad then.  Obviously I missed that.  -- [[User:ZachPruckowski|ZachPruckowski]] 22:58, 30 January 2007 (CST)
:No, <b>I</b> was using that template to attempt to mark for the constables pages that had been created by the vandals.  I was blanking and reverting as fast as I could, and leaving that in pages that (obviously) had no business being on Citizendium.  The vandals never used that.  [[User:Shanya Almafeta|Shanya Almafeta]] 23:00, 30 January 2007 (CST)
::OK, then I'll remake it on that page then. -- [[User:ZachPruckowski|ZachPruckowski]] 23:32, 30 January 2007 (CST)
 
Would it be beneficial if I made the Speedydelete template record who put it down?  That way you could tell if a vandal was dropping it or if a counter-vandal was?  --[[User:ZachPruckowski|ZachPruckowski]] 23:51, 30 January 2007 (CST)
:Sadly, it appears harder to force that than I'd like.  -- [[User:ZachPruckowski|ZachPruckowski]] 00:07, 31 January 2007 (CST)
 
The template code is [http://pilot.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Template:Speedydelete&action=edit here].  But I'm in the middle of messing with it at the moment. -- [[User:ZachPruckowski|ZachPruckowski]] 00:25, 31 January 2007 (CST)
 
I need to do my homework.  As it now stands, I can't get it to identify the user who laid down the template automatically.  I'll work on it tomorrow, but it's quarter to 2 in the morning, and I have 90 minutes of homework to do.  -- [[User:ZachPruckowski|ZachPruckowski]] 00:45, 31 January 2007 (CST)
 
==Re protection==
I get a drop down menu on Wintel XP Tell me a file to protect and Ill give it a go [[User:David Tribe|David Tribe]] 03:22, 31 January 2007 (CST)
 
== kick-A** Dutchman ==
 
Thank you, Great Warrior. [[User:Nancy Sculerati MD|Nancy Sculerati MD]] 06:53, 31 January 2007 (CST)
 
== Thanks ==
 
Thanks very much for helping when my user page was vandalised yesterday. One small quibble, though. After my user page was moved to an offensive title, someone restored the old content at the correct page, and then you deleted the page at the offensive title. However, this destroyed the edit history of that page (since the page you deleted was actually the original user page, just moved to a different location). Now, in this instance, it's not really a problem, because there's nothing of importance in the history. In other cases, though, it might be a problem, so I suggest making a general practice of moving the page back rather than deleting it. Cheers, [[User:Nat Krause|Nat Krause]] 13:50, 31 January 2007 (CST)
 
:No problem. I appreciate the need for alacrity.&mdash;[[User:Nat Krause|Nat Krause]] 14:04, 1 February 2007 (CST)
 
== Astronomy high priority items ==
 
The reason ESA, NASA, etc are not listed is because I am far from done! [[User:James F. Perry|James F. Perry]] 15:48, 31 January 2007 (CST)
 
:Please feel free to add to the listing of Astronomy high priority items! You really don't need my permission to do so, though. Long term, I may work on some of the Astronomy articles related in particular to the Renaissance period (Copernicus to Newton). I am one of the few living people who has actually read Kepler's ''Astronomia Nova'' - in Latin! Check out the WP article on Kepler's laws. [[User:James F. Perry|James F. Perry]] 15:58, 2 February 2007 (CST)
 
== Warning on blocking Users ==
Hi Rob,
 
The only problem I can think of, is that perhaps you blocked this user and did not "uncheck" the box,
"Prevent account creation."
If you leave this checked, anyone with the same IP address, can not set up a new account, like Jeff Cook. How do you fix this? Perhaps, you have to unblock him and then reblock him, with "prevent account creation" unchecked. My best guess... --[[User:Ruth Ifcher|Ruth Ifcher]] 21:28, 31 January 2007 (CST)
Addenda: It looks like you may have done this with all your blocks. You do not want to do this to a User who created an account with a badly formed name, say. If you do not uncheck "Prevent account creation," all these new Users are banned undefinitely.See the list of blocked IP addresses and Usernames. All you blocks prevent account creation.
 
http://pilot.citizendium.org/wiki/Special:Ipblocklist
 
--[[User:Ruth Ifcher|Ruth Ifcher]] 21:38, 31 January 2007 (CST)
 
I hope you find a solution. You have done this to multiple users, with poorly formed User Names. If you can't undo it, perhaps you should contact a developer. --[[User:Ruth Ifcher|Ruth Ifcher]] 21:56, 31 January 2007 (CST)
 
==recruitment letter==
could you help us with this? http://pilot.citizendium.org/wiki/Citizendium_Pilot:Recruitment_Letter#Version_2_for_Biological_.2F_Health_Sciences [[User:Thomas E Kelly|-Tom Kelly]] [[User talk:Thomas E Kelly|(Talk)]] 23:49, 31 January 2007 (CST)
 
==CZ Developers==
I am not a Citizendium developer.  I am on the Exec board and relatively knowledgeable about technical issues though.  I also handle some of the bug tracker functions.  I want to eventually be a developer for CZ, but I have a lot of learning to do before I reach that point.  -- [[User:ZachPruckowski|ZachPruckowski]] ([[User_talk:ZachPruckowski|Talk]]) 19:19, 1 February 2007 (CST)
 
==Thanks ...==
for the welcome.  I'm just trying to make my first contribution to the [[Industrial Revolution]] article, but I keep getting an edit conflict.  The article had a active link, but there was no history and the content indicated that the database was having trouble resolving it.  Any ideas on how to get this fixed?  [[User:Neville English|Neville English]] | [[User talk:Neville English|Talk]] 09:46, 4 February 2007 (CST)
 
:That did the job.  Thanks for the quick response.  Can I suggest that you edit your preferences to include a link to your talk page in your signature.  You need to check 'Raw signatures' and put something like <nowiki>[[User:Robert Tito|Robert Tito]] | [[User talk:Robert Tito|Talk]]</nowiki> as your nickname.  [[User:Neville English|Neville English]] | [[User talk:Neville English|Talk]] 11:45, 4 February 2007 (CST)
 
:You need to remove the nowiki stuff - that stops the parser from interpreting the commands embedded in the tags!  [[User:Neville English|Neville English]] | [[User talk:Neville English|Talk]] 11:58, 4 February 2007 (CST)
 
==Thanks for welcoming me==
Thank you for welcoming me to Citizendium Pilot. I didn't know precisely how to mention it to you, so I hope this is appropriate. I hope to edit some articles in the near future, though I'm not yet bold enough to start a new one. [[User:David Ostroske|DaveO]] 11:17, 4 February 2007 (CST)
 
== welcome ==
 
Hi Robert,
 
Thank you for your welcome (or was it a bot?). Don't think I'll be doing any editing as I don't much like the structure round here - policemen, etc. (although I note you are one). Also I'm confident enough of my own editing not to feel the need for people peering over my back "marking" me. I just joined to point out an error on the biology page - which I can't correct anyway. Good luck with your project. Cheers --[[User:Michael Johnson|Michael Johnson]] 18:37, 4 February 2007 (CST)
 
I'm glad it wasn't a bot...! Well I'm having too much fun on Wikipedia, if you ever get over that way look me up, I edit under my own name. And yes the gentleman who gave me a traffic ticket the other night definately was a Constable. Cheers,  --[[User:Michael Johnson|Michael Johnson]] 19:01, 4 February 2007 (CST) (PS moved your comments to my talk page - if I ever do get involved here, I'd want to start right.)
 
==Who is this page wiper?==
Can we block his IP address? this is getting annoying just watching the recent changes.  I can only imagine how upset you must be. Can we track his/her location geographically? [[User:Thomas E Kelly|-Tom Kelly]] [[User talk:Thomas E Kelly|(Talk)]] 00:25, 5 February 2007 (CST)
:It's doable to work out a geography from an IP, but it's imprecise rather easy to fake.  -- [[User:ZachPruckowski|ZachPruckowski]] ([[User_talk:ZachPruckowski|Talk]]) 00:33, 5 February 2007 (CST)
 
Hej, the article water (molecule) got wiped out and there is no history left to bring it back. What happened? If this can happen with any article, then it won't be much fun working here. [[User:Stefan von Berg|Stefan von Berg]] 14:54, 18 February 2007 (CST)
 
== help ==
 
how can i be a part of the citiz
my interrests are searchengines and encyclopedias
 
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rainer
 
== Slashdotting ==
 
Nice to see all these new people. If you see anybody doing anything funny that you'd like a hand with, leave a note here or on my page. --[[User:Mike Johnson|Mike Johnson]] 11:37, 7 February 2007 (CST)
 
==Bioinformatics==
Genetic testing and profiling  probably belong to another article, probably all on its own even[[User:David Tribe|David Tribe]] 23:31, 7 February 2007 (CST)
 
==Workgroup(s)==
Hi Rob. I wonder if the welcome template should include a link and some verbiage about [[Citizendium_Pilot:Discipline_Workgroups]], encouraging new folks to join to their liking. Looks like some interesting folks arrived today. [[User:Stephen Ewen|Stephen Ewen]] 01:41, 8 February 2007 (CST)
==Vandal alert Hida Hidergard==
[[User:David Tribe|David Tribe]] 14:51, 8 February 2007 (CST)
 
==Request from Jeff Cook==
Hi Robert,
The following email from a Jeff Cook was in the INBOX.
I'll turn this over to you.[[User:Bernard Haisch|Bernard Haisch]] 18:15, 8 February 2007 (CST)
 
Subject: Ban
From:    "Jeff Cook" <cookiecaper@gmail.com>
Date:    Wed, January 31, 2007 1:26 pm
To:      personnel@citizendium.org
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
I was blocked accidentally by Robert Tito. He said he unblocked me, but he
hasn't, because I still can't edit from any IP address I use. Please fix?
 
==Emails==
Hi Robert. It would be useful to me to have your email. Also, I should have email haisch@citizendium.org which forwards to astro@calphysics.org. Are you able to set this up, and if not, who?
Cheers, Bernie[[User:Bernard Haisch|Bernard Haisch]] 18:41, 8 February 2007 (CST)
 
==Hello==
Thank your for the welcome message. I probably won't start editing for a while though; at the moment I'm just having a look at Citizendium, and I couldn't get past the main page without creating an account. But hopefully Citizendium will prove itself superior to Wikipedia, and I will only edit here. [[User:Ivan Kricancic|Ivan Kricancic]] 23:54, 8 February 2007 (CST)
:Yes, thank you - I don't know what all that was about. [[User:Ivan Kricancic|Ivan Kricancic]] 01:00, 9 February 2007 (CST)
::Help! It's happening again - a new page move vandal. [[User:Ivan Kricancic|Ivan Kricancic]] 01:29, 9 February 2007 (CST)
 
==dont' delete==
Hi Robert, what a pain, hopefully they'll grow up soon. For future reference, don't delete the users immediately.  For example, your deletion here:
::"''(Deletion log); 00:27 . . Robert Tito (Talk | contribs) (deleted "User:Jared Brogan")''"
 
took the RNA interference edit history with it too. It was a sophisated switch-a-roo which means the current RNA interference page has vandalism in the page and I cannot revert back to the last good version. I believe this might even be their strategy.  The best strategy to beat these vandals is to block them but only delete once the moves have been undone. I noticed several other instance where the edit history and in some cases the content was deleted too.
 
*(Deletion log); 00:36 . . Robert Tito (Talk | contribs) (deleted "[[User:Frederica Cortéz]]": vandalism) 
:Undeletion of the above edit will gives us back content and history for [[Vertebral subluxation]]"
 
*(Deletion log); 00:46 . . Robert Tito (Talk | contribs) (deleted "[[User:Gary Schumann]]": vandalism)
:Undeletion of the above edit will gives us back content and history for [[Homeopathy]]
 
*(Deletion log); '''01:10''' . . Robert Tito (Talk | contribs) (deleted "[[User:▄▄█▀▀ █▬█ █ ▀█▀ ▄▄█▀▀ █▬█ █ ▀█▀ ▄▄█▀▀ █▬█ █ ▀█▀]]": content was: 'Hiya. My name is Jeff Morton, and I'm a 23 year-old tech enthusiast. I graduated sixth in my high school class in 2002. I attended a couple years o...')
:Undeletion of the above edit will gives us back content and history for [[User:Jeffrey A. Morton]]
 
Finally:
 
*(Deletion log); '''01:08''' . . Robert Tito (Talk | contribs) (deleted "User:▄▄█▀▀ █▬█ █ ▀█▀ ▄▄█▀▀ █▬█ █ ▀█▀ ▄▄█▀▀ █▬█ █ ▀█▀")
:Undeletion of the above edit will gives you back the content and history for your own user page. I have already moved your talk page.
 
'''Note:''' for the last two deletions above you deleted this page twice within minutes (1:10 and 1:08) and in the process deleted the edit histories for two different pages. It is seems they are trying to cause so much confusion that we end up vandalising our own encyclopedia. I suppose we can coin the new phrase, the "''fog of vandalism''".
 
I have left the talk pages for homeopathy and Vertebral subluxation at the vandalised location for now until we can move them together with the article content. [[User:Chris day|Chris Day]] [[User talk:Chris day|(Talk)]] 02:19, 9 February 2007 (CST)
 
I was sad to see that after only moments of showing up my bio had been deleted by Robert after it had been vandalized by [[User:Frederica Cortéz]].  I'm still sorting out how to best clean it up, but hardly a good welcome.  I hope things improve and this is just a Slashdot-related vandal spree.  [[User:Steve Bonds|Steve Bonds]] 02:43, 9 February 2007 (CST)
 
== Initials ==
 
I noticed you blocked R.J. Hosking-Young. I'm not clear on what the current rules are. To me, that looks like the sort of name somebody might publish under, so I would have figured the initials were okay.&mdash;[[User:Nat Krause|Nat Krause]] 18:57, 9 February 2007 (CST)
 
== Leopard image ==
 
- It really has nothing to do with Leopard being finished or not, I think it's nice to showcase OS X' latest features and Leopard has them, that's why I added it. Cheers, [[User:Alex Bravo|Alex Bravo]] | [[User talk:Alex Bravo|Talk]]
- Time Machine is certain, and some ZFS integration is present in current betas, but what does that have to do with the screenshot?
- Screenshots where? I only added a generic desktop! (I'm lost)
 
== Thanks ==
 
Thanks for your vigilence, and chivalry. :-) Nancy [[User:Nancy Sculerati MD|Nancy Sculerati MD]] 08:10, 10 February 2007 (CST)
I like them both, gallant knight. [[User:Nancy Sculerati MD|Nancy Sculerati MD]] 19:35, 10 February 2007 (CST)
 
==Undooing check==
Ill continue working thrugh a double check you look out for new users till I finish. seems as if one got past you [[User:David Tribe|David Tribe]] 17:47, 10 February 2007 (CST)
 
==Nice job==
Sorry i couldn't join the fun, you contained them well this time. No damage by the looks of it. [[User:Chris day|Chris Day]] [[User talk:Chris day|(Talk)]] 19:27, 10 February 2007 (CST)
:By the way, one more suggestion to speed things along.  If you move the aticle page first the talk page goes along for the ride. If you move the talk page first the article has to be moved as a separate edit.  This should reduce the number of moves by a factor of two. [[User:Chris day|Chris Day]] [[User talk:Chris day|(Talk)]] 20:19, 10 February 2007 (CST)
 
==Deletion==
 
Please stop deleting my page and trying to block me - I'm a sysop and should not be blocked. Thanks. [[User:Greg Sabino Mullane|Greg Sabino Mullane]] 22:48, 10 February 2007 (CST)
 
Hold your fire, Rob. Greg's legit. :) EDIT: just so everybody's on the same page, Robert Tito is an acknowledged Constable, and Greg Sabino Mullane is an acknowledged sysop. He generally works behind the scenes on the wiki, which is why you haven't seen him around. All's well. --[[User:Mike Johnson|Mike Johnson]] 22:50, 10 February 2007 (CST)
 
== [[Vertebral subluxation]] and attacks on my user page. ==
 
I regard [[Chiropractic]] as a discipline of [[massage]]. I do not regard it as a medically valid diagnostic system. I posted to Larry about this. Chiropractic is not to be regarded as medically valid; it's folk medicine. My user pages have been subsequently attacked. The article [[Vertebral subluxation]] is under suspicion. --[[User:Mark Odegard|Mark Odegard]] 01:18, 12 February 2007 (CST)
:Where is the attack? It seems more like people are trying to explain their own rationale. Or did you delete the attack material? [[User:Chris day|Chris Day]] [[User talk:Chris day|(Talk)]] 01:34, 12 February 2007 (CST)
 
== High priority Physics articles and Wikipedia source template ==
 
I just finished adding the Wikipedia template to all the high priority Astronomy articles where needed. Do you want me to do the same with the high priority Physics articles? Wherever I see interwiki links, that means the article came from WP and I remove those interwiki links at the same time I add the WP template. [[User:James F. Perry|James F. Perry]] 21:23, 12 February 2007 (CST)
 
==Re: Canada==
 
Yes, I think that it was neccessary.  It was lifted directly from Wikipedia, and was much too long according to both Wikipedia and Citizendium's guidelines.  If people want to put parts of the Wikipedia article in Canada, of course I have no objection, but I think that keeping it all in is not productive and makes creating a clearly written article that much more confusing. [[User:Graham Pressey|Graham Pressey]]
 
==where did Dr. Nancy go?==
i noticed her page is deleted. ? [[User:Thomas E Kelly|-Tom Kelly]] [[User talk:Thomas E Kelly|(Talk)]] 22:59, 13 February 2007 (CST)
 
who is the guy, User:Nerijus Lamanauskas, that just got deleted with the funny name who wrote the brain article? he had no bio.
[[User:Thomas E Kelly|-Tom Kelly]] [[User talk:Thomas E Kelly|(Talk)]] 23:03, 13 February 2007 (CST)
 
I can't answer the second question, but as to the first one, well, let's just say that Dr. Sculerati has decided to take a break from the project.  Entirely contrary to the wishes of any of us, I am sure.  Let's hope she returns in time. --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 23:15, 13 February 2007 (CST)
 
Well, I can't answer the second question, but the name is not that "funny" (as a typical Lithuanian one). It coincides with the name of a PhD student of neurobiology at the International School for Advanced Studies [http://www.sissa.it/main/?p=PHONEBOOK&surname=Lamanauskas&name=Nerijus].  Restoring the account and leaving a request for a bio, wouldn't it be a better solution? (sorry for this little investigation, I couldn't resist. I know we can not do it for everyone who registers). --[[User:Aleksander Halicz|Alex Halicz]] [[User_Talk:Aleksander Halicz|<small><span style="color:#017701">(hello)</span></small>]] 05:03, 14 February 2007 (CST)
 
==My user page (vandalism)==
Looks like you moved my user talk page back to where it belonged, but my user page could do with similar treatment.  Thanks  -- [[User:ZachPruckowski|ZachPruckowski]] ([[User_talk:ZachPruckowski|Talk]]) 01:14, 14 February 2007 (CST)
 
== math chaos ==
 
The answer is not clear. Firstly, chaos-related topics come often from physics (see [[Self-organized criticality|SOC]], or [[power law]]), so this is somehow inter-disciplinary; secondly, to decide math workgroup internal structure we should probably have more eyes there (and at the moment I see not many editors nor active authors). Let's wait. --[[User:Aleksander Halicz|Alex Halicz]] [[User_Talk:Aleksander Halicz|<small><span style="color:#017701">(hello)</span></small>]] 04:32, 14 February 2007 (CST)
 
== Let me know ==
 
I've been watching recent changes and see you and Alex working hard!  If there is any way I can jump in, let me know. [[User:D. Matt Innis|Matt Innis]] [[User talk:D. Matt Innis|(Talk)]] 10:08, 14 February 2007 (CST)
 
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE BRAIN DEAD!  How did you do this all morning!!!  I am doing this between patients, so I may have to leave occasionally.  Is there a way to let you know when I come and go? [[User:D. Matt Innis|Matt Innis]] [[User talk:D. Matt Innis|(Talk)]] 13:53, 14 February 2007 (CST)
 
Is this a normal day?  Do we get this many everyday? [[User:D. Matt Innis|Matt Innis]] [[User talk:D. Matt Innis|(Talk)]] 14:04, 14 February 2007 (CST)
 
Your welcome is better than mine:( [[User:D. Matt Innis|Matt Innis]] [[User talk:D. Matt Innis|(Talk)]] 14:18, 14 February 2007 (CST)
 
Yeah, holy crap, this must be driving you nuts!  But it's essential for us.  We got mentioned on Slashdot twice today, hence the higher traffic.  -- [[User:ZachPruckowski|ZachPruckowski]] ([[User_talk:ZachPruckowski|Talk]]) 14:46, 14 February 2007 (CST)
:We received a mention [http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/02/14/1355252 here as well].  -- [[User:ZachPruckowski|ZachPruckowski]] ([[User_talk:ZachPruckowski|Talk]]) 15:02, 14 February 2007 (CST)
 
==Physics group Top article==
 
Let me know if you want the articles recently removed from the Top group restored there. I can also go through the remaining 13 articles in that Top group and remove the interwiki links which needs to be done anyway. I still favor the deletion of any non-Top article which has not been worked on since mid-November when the CZ pilot wiki started. Only non-Top articles and only the ones not worked on since. [[User:James F. Perry|James F. Perry]] 17:34, 14 February 2007 (CST)
 
==Re [http://pilot.citizendium.org/wiki?title=User_talk%3ADavid_Ellis&diff=100036754&oldid=100034699]==
Yes, I would like [[Template:PROD]] and [[Template:Dated prod]] deleted, as both are templates for one of Wikipedia's deletion processes.  When we develop a deletion process, I'm sure that we can do much better. [[User:David Ellis|David Ellis]] 18:39, 14 February 2007 (CST)
 
== Image deletion ==
 
I uploaded an image with an apparent copyright violation on the [[Chiropractic]] page [http://pilot.citizendium.org/wiki/Talk:Chiropractic#Image_is_a_copyright_violation].  I deleted the image to avoid further viewing, but the article has already been approved so I think that the article needs to be updated as well.  Since I was the one that did it, I didn't think it was appropriate for me to change anything.  Can you check into it? [[User:D. Matt Innis|Matt Innis]] [[User talk:D. Matt Innis|(Talk)]] 22:16, 14 February 2007 (CST)
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May I ask you to delete <nowiki>[[Image:MandelBlue.gif]]</nowiki>. I uploaded it, but it did not work for the thumbnail in the article (I converted it to jpg format that works so the old gif is a garbage). Thanks in advance. --[[User:Aleksander Halicz|Alex Halicz]] [[User_Talk:Aleksander Halicz|<small><span style="color:#017701">(hello)</span></small>]] 14:47, 15 February 2007 (CST)
 
== User Page Bio ==
 
Mr. Tito,
 
Thanks for letting me know about that, I noticed your message right after I added the bio section to my talk page. Cheers!
 
--[[User:Paul Derry|Paul Derry]] 00:10, 15 February 2007 (CST)
 
== Username ==
 
Mr. Tito, thank you for welcoming me (actually the second time was much better). May I redirect my unfortunate Greek character username and talkpage to my English ones? If not, then kindly delete them.
 
Thank you,
 
[[User:Nikolas Argyros|Nikolas Argyros]] 15:36, 15 February 2007 (CST)
 
:Thank you, I probably didn't clarify enough. I had created initially [[User:Νικόλαος Αργυρός]] and was blocked by you for using Greek characters. I've e-mailed you regarding the issue as later instructed. Shall we delete that empty userpage and talkpage, or can we use the <nowiki>#REDIRECT</nowiki> function for both to my new ones? [[User:Nikolas Argyros|Niko Argyros]] <sup>([[User talk:Nikolas Argyros|talk]])</sup> 15:45, 15 February 2007 (CST)
 
::I do not intend to use it at all. Simply, if another Greek-speaking editor searches for me, he may locate me through the redirect. What do you do in these cases? Can I maintain the pages as simple redirects, or do we delete them? [[User:Nikolas Argyros|Niko Argyros]] <sup>([[User talk:Nikolas Argyros|talk]])</sup> 15:49, 15 February 2007 (CST)
 
==Don't bother!==
 
Hey Rob, don't bother blocking these accounts.  There are 2500 of them, Jason says.  He'll be deleting them and cleaning up the logs.  I've asked him to do something that will prevent spam account creation. --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 17:47, 15 February 2007 (CST)
 
==Input needed on how to educate more people on category importance==
http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,539.0.html [[User:Thomas E Kelly|-Tom Kelly]] [[User talk:Thomas E Kelly|(Talk)]] 19:42, 15 February 2007 (CST)
 
Check out how Chris has revolutionized the workgroups! I've been wondering how to do this for a very long time but had no idea how to pull it off. Is there any way we can somehow get this advertised you your Spam to new users to check out the workgroup recent changes so that they will add the correct workgroup categories to their articles... so that the related changes for each workgroup functions like it should? [[User:Thomas E Kelly|-Tom Kelly]] [[User talk:Thomas E Kelly|(Talk)]] 00:35, 16 February 2007 (CST)
 
===copied from a talk page===
====1====
go to the biology workgroup wiki page http://pilot.citizendium.org/wiki/Citizendium_Pilot:Biology_Workgroup and check out the cool things Chris has done with the recent changes in the biology workgroup articles.  this is why we need any related biology articles tagged properly. look at the link underneath "all articles" in the table at the top.[[User:Thomas E Kelly|-Tom Kelly]] [[User talk:Thomas E Kelly|(Talk)]] 21:01, 15 February 2007 (CST)
 
::: Chris Day's effort answers this question. Tell people to take advantage of this workgroup tool to make their work VISIBLE [[User:David Tribe|David Tribe]] 00:24, 16 February 2007 (CST)
::::Yup, spread the word.  Just start posting all over people's talk pages, forums, email, whatever it takes.  We need to educate the new authors and current and new editors. [[User:Thomas E Kelly|-Tom Kelly]] [[User talk:Thomas E Kelly|(Talk)]] 00:26, 16 February 2007 (CST)
 
====2====
::::Re message on Chris Days Work . COOOL. Now see what your persistent yapping about categories has done - its started a category revolution! Seriously this now provides a DRIVING FORCE for people TO WANT to have their articles tagged in particular workgroups Congrats. I'm really impresses TOM. [[User:David Tribe|David Tribe]] 00:15, 16 February 2007 (CST)
 
==adding topic to article==
 
Hi Rob, sorry for this display of total ignorance - how do I add a topic (mathematics) to the articles I wrote ? Thanks--[[User:David Lehavi|dlehavi]] 23:55, 15 February 2007 (CST)
 
 
Hi Rob, these two will need sysop tools, vandal moved the original twice so cannot be undone with out deleting the orginal page first. [[User:Chris day|Chris Day]] [[User talk:Chris day|(Talk)]] 11:53, 16 February 2007 (CST)
 
 
==Stubs==
 
In reference to your comment:
"small introductory pieces are mentioned as stubs in the summary as well as in the text (can you agree with this way to seperate articles?) Robert Tito | Talk 22:20, 16 February 2007 (CST)"
 
I created a Template:stub, since none existed, as follows:
 
'''Stub''' - This is a stub. Feel free to edit the content of this page, section, or paragraph, depending on where you found this message. However, if there are links, please do not alter or delete them without conferring with the author of the referenced pages. The stub was probably put here to create a hierachy to form a path between the page above and below this one.
 
This means that, when one adds the phrase "stub" enclosed by double braces on a page, the above phrase will appear in its stead. I notice that some people have been adding phrases like "fish-stub" to their pages. I don't think this is appropriate. A stub, is a stub, is a stub, no matter what your page is about..
 
Your thoughts?
 
== Slow down please... ==
 
Hi Rob, if you actually read the protocol, which you ''must'' do, you'll see that you shouldn't do any deletions until the tagger has written "Yes" after "Done?"
 
Also, you haven't signed up to delete "Z"!
 
I'm done with "Q" by the way. :-) --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 13:55, 17 February 2007 (CST)
 
Oops!  Me, too.  Talk about poor timing. [[User:D. Matt Innis|Matt Innis]] [[User talk:D. Matt Innis|(Talk)]] 14:25, 17 February 2007 (CST)
 
Do you expect me to write 26 tags from A - Z?, besides where are these YES DONE fields? I haven't seen one of them, nomatter speedydelete or another delete
I was fortunate to save Quantum chemistry for deletion. [[User:Robert Tito|Robert Tito]] | [[User talk:Robert Tito|Talk]] 14:29, 17 February 2007 (CST)
:Yeah Robert, pay attention:) [[User:D. Matt Innis|Matt Innis]] [[User talk:D. Matt Innis|(Talk)]] 14:43, 17 February 2007 (CST)
 
Just look on [[CZ:The Big Speedydelete]] under "Sign up list".  You'll see the "Done?" lines as well as places for you to sign up.  Do read the whole page...there are set rules and I don't want anyone to delete anything beyond them...not that I'm accusing you or anything, I'm just sayin', on general principles.  :-) --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 14:36, 17 February 2007 (CST)
 
==Re [http://pilot.citizendium.org/wiki?title=User_talk%3ADavid_Ellis&diff=100040647&oldid=100040288]==
Yes, please. [[User:David Ellis|David Ellis]] 14:33, 17 February 2007 (CST)
 
==I think i should be able to clean up my user pages when i would like==
I noted the comments you made and when the comments are refered to me and are also noted other places, I feel that I should be able to clean up and remove those comments.  [[User:Thomas E Kelly|-Tom Kelly]] [[User talk:Thomas E Kelly|(Talk)]] 02:01, 18 February 2007 (CST)
:The comments I delete are on my talk and user page and I think that I should be able to clean up that page as I wish.  correct? I would never purposely do that on other pages. [[User:Thomas E Kelly|-Tom Kelly]] [[User talk:Thomas E Kelly|(Talk)]] 02:06, 18 February 2007 (CST)
 
== Please Restore "Cold War" article ==
 
Hi there. I just tried to email the Constables list, but the email bounced back at me.... So coming straight to you!
 
Here's the text of the email I just sent:
 
Just to let you know that I ''am'' working on the [[Cold War]] article that was just deleted as part of BSD.... Could we have it restored please?
 
I don't think the marker could have checked the page history very well!
 
Best regards,
 
[[User:Paul James Cowie|Paul James Cowie]] 16:04, 18 February 2007 (CST)
 
Thanks for restoring! [[User:Paul James Cowie|Paul James Cowie]] 16:12, 18 February 2007 (CST)
 
==journals lists==
I think I marked t hem all specifically for keeping. [[User:DavidGoodman|DavidGoodman]] 18:50, 18 February 2007 (CST)
 
== Protection ==
 
Why are you locking lots of pages from editing as well as moves?  Even talk pages?  Whyyyyyy?  [[User:Rob Levin|Rob Levin]] 23:45, 18 February 2007 (CST)
 
== [[ALGOL]] ==
 
Any reason not to speedydelete? --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 08:22, 19 February 2007 (CST)
 
== Your change to my userpager ==
 
Hi Robert,
I' sorry, but I don't understand your edit ([http://pilot.citizendium.org/wiki?title=User%3AAlexander_Wiebel&diff=100042619&oldid=100042616 see here]) :-). There is no problem for me at all. I just don't understand it. Will there at any time be an article with the title "cities"? Isn't it more likely that a "city" article will appear. -- [[User:Alexander Wiebel|Alexander Wiebel]] 14:18, 19 February 2007 (CST)
 
== Hillary Hildegard articles ==
 
What is going on with the ''Hillary Hildegard'' articles? They all should be deleted.
 
http://pilot.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Special%3APrefixindex&from=H&namespace=0
 
[[User:James F. Perry|James F. Perry]] 22:46, 19 February 2007 (CST)
done [[User:Robert Tito|Robert Tito]] | [[User talk:Robert Tito|Talk]] 00:03, 20 February 2007 (CST)
 
== Thanks for the welcome ==
 
Thanks Sir Rob-Glad to be back [[User:Nancy Sculerati MD|Nancy Sculerati MD]] 14:25, 20 February 2007 (CST)
 
== Server ==
 
If you look at my outline on [[server (computer)]], I'm aiming to use that article to cover the actual physical server computer, and I want to have specific articles for each different type/function of server, as well as a conceptual client/server model article.  For right now, I'm only focusing on the article for the physical computer part of the server. --[[User:ZachPruckowski|ZachPruckowski]] ([[User_talk:ZachPruckowski|Talk]]) 14:49, 20 February 2007 (CST)
 
== [[Dual-channel architecture]] ==
If you could check the talk page [[Talk:Dual-channel_architecture]], someone wants the article moved because there's also a safety term with that name.  Whatever new name you want for it would be fine (although I'd like [[Dual-channel memory]] personally).  Thanks  -- [[User:ZachPruckowski|ZachPruckowski]] ([[User_talk:ZachPruckowski|Talk]]) 15:04, 20 February 2007 (CST)
 
If you want to do a disambiguation page, go for it.  I don't really care, I just want to make sure that this guy's legitimate concerns are addressed. -- [[User:ZachPruckowski|ZachPruckowski]] ([[User_talk:ZachPruckowski|Talk]]) 18:20, 20 February 2007 (CST)
 
== BSD ==
 
Robert, you finished [http://pilot.citizendium.org/wiki/Citizendium_Pilot:The_Big_Speedydelete#Sign_up_sheet Bj-Bz].-[[User:Rilson Versuri|Versuri]] 17:22, 20 February 2007 (CST)
 
==missed in the noise==
Hi Robert, this move, [[Talk:Embryology]], got missed in one of the vandal spree's can you move the talk page back?  Thanks [[User:Chris day|Chris Day]] [[User talk:Chris day|(Talk)]] 02:46, 21 February 2007 (CST)
 
== Why protect FSF? ==
 
Why did you protect the [[Free Software Foundation]] page?  Only sysops can move pages now, so there's no need for move protection; and shouldn't everyone be be able to edit the article? --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 14:26, 21 February 2007 (CST)
:I think there may be confusion here.  [[User_talk:Chris_day#still_want_this.3F|I suggested to Matt]] that it was OK to delete the article.  The only reason i brought it to citizendium was to link from the copyright templates ([[:Category:License tags]]).  However, we are still not clear which templates we will need and rather than link to this page it may be better to link to FSF [http://www.fsf.org/about external site].  The protection confusion is due to the fact we protected the [[GNU_Free_Documentation_License]] page. There is no need to protect the FSF article if we decide it is useful. [[User:Chris day|Chris Day]] [[User talk:Chris day|(Talk)]] 15:31, 21 February 2007 (CST)
 
== Missing article ==
 
Hi Robert,
 
I put up an article a week or two ago, [[Estrada de Ferro Oeste de Minas]]. It has disappeared, without any indication why. Can you tell me what happened to it?
 
Cheers
 
--[[User:Michael Johnson|Michael Johnson]] 16:01, 21 February 2007 (CST)
 
I can always put it up again. I had thought to bring across a few articles I had written, however if they are just deleted, cannot see the point. Is this a continuing process or a one-off. Cheers, --[[User:Michael Johnson|Michael Johnson]] 22:00, 22 February 2007 (CST)
 
== wikieditor ==
 
Can you place the privs procedure [http://pilot.citizendium.org/wiki/Citizendium_Pilot:Pilot_Project_Application_Review_Procedure#Constable_procedures_for_author_applications here]?  -[[User:D. Matt Innis|Matt Innis]] [[User talk:D. Matt Innis|(Talk)]] 21:30, 21 February 2007 (CST)
 
== podcast ==
 
 
 
Agree. Will add podcast. Cheers. [[User:JeromeDelacroix|Jérôme Delacroix]] [[User talk:JeromeDelacroix|(Talk)]] 23:12, 22 February 2007, Paris
 
== delete ==
 
how about we just delete this guy? [http://pilot.citizendium.org/wiki/User:FrancescoUgolini] [[User:D. Matt Innis|Matt Innis]] [[User talk:D. Matt Innis|(Talk)]] 22:01, 26 February 2007 (CST)
 
==U is done==
That was fast! And i thought you were off to bed? Or did you just get up? [[User:Chris day|Chris Day]] [[User talk:Chris day|(Talk)]] 00:38, 27 February 2007 (CST)
 
 
==Macro-lollipops==
 
I reck'n that this baby's ok 'cept these bits:
 
: Larger hydrocarbon molecules will shy away from the solvent water and will form a double layer system of water and oil. The thorough mixing of these two layers into a stable emulsion is a basic ingredient of cooking. Anyone who has tried to mix an oily ingredient with a watery ingredient will know of the separation of phases (for instance mayonnaise) and easy home experiments will solve that problem.
 
: An example is electrostatic shielding of charges on partially charged polyelectrolytes by hydrophobic, non-polar functional groups, where the charges on the macromolecule respond to each other over smaller distances than normal, thereby reducing the charge-driven repulsion between charged parts of the molecule. For each individual charge, the other charges seem to be farther away because this shielding reduces their effect.
 
I had trouble working out what was meant, and they still seem a bit confusing or not as good as they could be (I'm trying to be diplomatic, Master of subtlety and silence.) Over to you [[User:David Tribe|David Tribe]] 06:50, 28 February 2007 (CST)
 
== Image deletes ==
 
You are just toooo fast:) -[[User:D. Matt Innis|Matt Innis]] [[User talk:D. Matt Innis|(Talk)]] 12:37, 28 February 2007 (CST)
 
: Now the question is: what about Wikipedia? Those images are all over WP and I don't know how long they have been up. Then there is the text problem as well. Finally, there is edwardtbabinski.us which has the same images ("based on") and text as well. I don't think the NG legal department knows about that yet..[[User:James F. Perry|James F. Perry]] 12:44, 28 February 2007 (CST)
 
== Dalton ==
 
The confusion for me is using "1000 Dalton" in one sentence and then "millions of Daltons" in the next sentence.  Not being a chemist, it made my head turn 180 degrees laterally on my neck ;) Is that correct as well? [[User:D. Matt Innis|Matt Innis]] [[User talk:D. Matt Innis|(Talk)]] 15:58, 28 February 2007 (CST)
yes it is, compare it to e.g. 500 g and compare it to the statue used tons of material where 1 ton = 1000 kg. 75 km versus hundreds of kilometers. [[User:Robert Tito|Robert Tito]] | [[User talk:Robert Tito|Talk]] 16:06, 28 February 2007 (CST)
 
K, thanks of the edumecation! [[User:D. Matt Innis|Matt Innis]] [[User talk:D. Matt Innis|(Talk)]] 17:05, 28 February 2007 (CST)
 
==Re [http://pilot.citizendium.org/wiki?title=User_talk:David_Ellis&diff=next&oldid=100048813]==
I've uploaded the photograph to [[:Image:Keplersnr chandra big.jpg]]. [[User:David Ellis|David Ellis]] 21:51, 1 March 2007 (CST)
 
== Re top ==
Well, my  point was - as discussed on the forum -- that there is no more "top" category for many workgroups, math now included (e.g. this category is no more featured on WG main page). So I doubt if keeping "top" would give it any priority in math. On the other hand, we have just forged a new structure -- or "attack plan" -- based on math subject classification; [[User:David Lehavi|David]] is actually working on it and we shall see it very soon.
 
About the TOP articles, as far as I know some groups arent ready yet to get on with that - if they actually exist. So I am reluctant there [[User:Robert Tito|Robert Tito]] | [[User talk:Robert Tito|Talk]]
 
By the way, you disagree to give "BSD" tag to [[Trigonometric function]]? Well, the article hasn't been really edited, has it. It is not that bad as an article, but it does not really represent our work. Or maybe I overinterprete aims of BSD. Best, --[[User:Aleksander Stos|Alex S.]] 14:58, 2 March 2007 (CST)
I removed it because it seemed a nice article - with minor changes to be our document, I cant phrase 1+1=2 other than 1+1=2, maybe as 3-2=1. [[User:Robert Tito|Robert Tito]] | [[User talk:Robert Tito|Talk]] 15:28, 2 March 2007 (CST)
 
== thanks ==
 
...I did not think about it -- it's just an old wikipedia habit :-) --[[User:Aleksander Stos|AleksanderS]] 13:21, 3 March 2007 (CST)
 
== Silicone ==
 
Rob, I started a stub on Silicone. As I've been reading about implants for the cosmetic surgery stuff, I have come across this fascinating history of silicone for use in cosmetic surgery. The article I'm starting has a broader, more encyclopedic outlook. I was hoping I could convince you to write a section in that article about the different physical forms of silicone, and how its properties underly those forms. Perhaps you'd write an article on the physical chemistry of Silicone from that perspective? Or that includes that perspective? Thanks for considering it, anyway. Nancy [[User:Nancy Sculerati MD|Nancy Sculerati MD]] 06:36, 4 March 2007 (CST)
 
==yo welcome==
the pleasure was all mine;)
I think I gave you some compliments back
==Macro baby==
Congrats on the  of arrival in good health of your new chemistry group baby. [[User:David Tribe|David Tribe]]
 
==[[Chemistry]]==
Shouldn't that article have a template saying some of the material originally appeared on Wikipedia? Some paragraphs are verbatim. [[User:Stephen Ewen|Stephen Ewen]] 00:02, 12 March 2007 (CDT)
 
== Creating article with only minor edits? ==
Hi Robert, I just saw [[Atoms and Molecules]] which you brought from non-existence to 6 lines all with minor edits (including its creation). Surely at least one real edit was involved, or? Otherwise could you do more minor edits ;-)
BTW, please have a look if you like the new look of the [[CZ:Computers_Workgroup]] page. Tot ziens --[[User:Markus Baumeister|Markus Baumeister]] 19:03, 12 March 2007 (CDT)
 
==Another baby last night, a boy this time==
Very little squawking.
 
==signature==
So you know Rob, the talk page link in your new signature does not appear to be functional. [[User:Chris day|Chris Day]] [[User talk:Chris day|(Talk)]] 00:19, 20 March 2007 (CDT)
OUCH, thanks Chris, will get into it. I expected it to work. but then the only infallible human never will be born. Thanks for the warning. much appreciated. [[User:Robert Tito|Robert Tito]] | <span style="background:black">&nbsp;[[<font color="red"><b>Talk</b></font>]]&nbsp;</span>

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