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I started this on wikialpha, where I was the sole author of its intellectual content. [[User:George Swan|George Swan]] ([[User talk:George Swan|talk]]) 13:40, 27 March 2022 (CDT) | I started this on wikialpha, where I was the sole author of its intellectual content. [[User:George Swan|George Swan]] ([[User talk:George Swan|talk]]) 13:40, 27 March 2022 (CDT) | ||
==The "not inherited" debate== | |||
Over on the wikipedia one often sees arguments that notable individuals, who have an association with someone even more notable, should have their articles folded into the article on their spouse or boss or whomever. | |||
I always argued a good counter argument was the constellation of articles on the Queen, and her relatives. No one would argue that her four children merited articles, because there is lots of coverage of them, in reliable sources, doing things that aren't really connected with the Queen. | |||
Meanwhile, the Queen has dozens of second or third cousins, who never get coverage in reliable sources, at all. Other distant cousins get fleeting mentions, like, ''"As usual, the Queen was joined in her Royal Box, by her cousins Joe Mountbatten, and his sister Jane Mountbatten."'' | |||
The first two dozen or so individuals on the UK's official list of succession are all descended from her, and about half of them had wikipedia articles. When I started this article Savannah was the most senior member of the Royal family who didn't have a wikipedia article. I thought it was only a matter of time, so I started one. | |||
The second two dozen individuals on the UK's oficial list are mainly the Queen's first cousins. There are articles about a fair number of them. | |||
Then, the next hundred or so? Sparse. Some more distant members of the family, like Lord [[Louis Mountbatten]], were quite notable. | |||
An article about Ms Phillips, at the time I started it, would have received criticism as TOOSOON, and a lapse from WPPOINT. But I think the coverage of the discussion of whether she will break with tradition, and not attend a boarding school, makes her ready for an article. [[User:George Swan|George Swan]] ([[User talk:George Swan|talk]]) 13:56, 27 March 2022 (CDT) | |||
== Schools == | |||
Near end: "attended high and boarding schools". What does "high ... school" mean? Is it an Americanism? The only generic use of this term here is in Scotland, though some English schools have it in their names. [[User:Peter Jackson|Peter Jackson]] ([[User talk:Peter Jackson|talk]]) 04:54, 15 June 2022 (CDT) | |||
Latest revision as of 03:54, 15 June 2022
provenance
I started this on wikialpha, where I was the sole author of its intellectual content. George Swan (talk) 13:40, 27 March 2022 (CDT)
The "not inherited" debate
Over on the wikipedia one often sees arguments that notable individuals, who have an association with someone even more notable, should have their articles folded into the article on their spouse or boss or whomever.
I always argued a good counter argument was the constellation of articles on the Queen, and her relatives. No one would argue that her four children merited articles, because there is lots of coverage of them, in reliable sources, doing things that aren't really connected with the Queen.
Meanwhile, the Queen has dozens of second or third cousins, who never get coverage in reliable sources, at all. Other distant cousins get fleeting mentions, like, "As usual, the Queen was joined in her Royal Box, by her cousins Joe Mountbatten, and his sister Jane Mountbatten."
The first two dozen or so individuals on the UK's official list of succession are all descended from her, and about half of them had wikipedia articles. When I started this article Savannah was the most senior member of the Royal family who didn't have a wikipedia article. I thought it was only a matter of time, so I started one.
The second two dozen individuals on the UK's oficial list are mainly the Queen's first cousins. There are articles about a fair number of them.
Then, the next hundred or so? Sparse. Some more distant members of the family, like Lord Louis Mountbatten, were quite notable.
An article about Ms Phillips, at the time I started it, would have received criticism as TOOSOON, and a lapse from WPPOINT. But I think the coverage of the discussion of whether she will break with tradition, and not attend a boarding school, makes her ready for an article. George Swan (talk) 13:56, 27 March 2022 (CDT)
Schools
Near end: "attended high and boarding schools". What does "high ... school" mean? Is it an Americanism? The only generic use of this term here is in Scotland, though some English schools have it in their names. Peter Jackson (talk) 04:54, 15 June 2022 (CDT)