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Stephen - I have only just now started noticing the new proposal for controversy ratings, and I do not understand what the concern is regarding fair-use media. I'll admit I haven't gone over all the forum postings and discussion pages. Can you please explain the specific concern? [[User:Anthony Argyriou|Anthony Argyriou]] 20:34, 9 August 2007 (CDT)
Stephen - I have only just now started noticing the new proposal for controversy ratings, and I do not understand what the concern is regarding fair-use media. I'll admit I haven't gone over all the forum postings and discussion pages. Can you please explain the specific concern? [[User:Anthony Argyriou|Anthony Argyriou]] 20:34, 9 August 2007 (CDT)


:It's easiest if we just take an example.  Let's say someone writes a biography of a highly controversial living person and wants it to contain fair use images and they add some.  Before it is approved, while it is being drafted, it may on some days contain material that is just not neutral but, material that is a partisan slug fest.  Now let's say, on that day, the subject or his or her representatives finds the CZ article, ''in that state'', AND with fair use images.  I think I do not need to carry this story out further, but you get the idea.    Whether ''fair use'' is challenged or not often hinges on whether the use of the material is ''offensive use'' to the copyright holder.  Better to just avoid that and say, for controversial articles, no fair use until they are nominated for approval. See?   —[[User:Stephen Ewen|Stephen Ewen]] [[User talk:Stephen Ewen|(Talk)]] 23:34, 9 August 2007 (CDT)
:It's easiest if we just take an example.  Let's say someone writes a biography of a highly controversial living person and wants it to contain fair use images and they add some.  Before it is approved, while it is being drafted, it may on some days contain material that is just not neutral but, material that is a partisan slug fest.  Now let's say, on that day, the subject or his or her representatives finds the CZ article, ''in that state'', AND with fair use images ''they own''.  I think I do not need to carry this story out further, but you get the idea.    Whether ''fair use'' is challenged or not often hinges on whether the use of the material is ''offensive use'' to the copyright holder.  Better to just avoid that and say, for controversial articles, no fair use until they are nominated for approval. See?   —[[User:Stephen Ewen|Stephen Ewen]] [[User talk:Stephen Ewen|(Talk)]] 23:34, 9 August 2007 (CDT)


I'd be happy if this turned to just a simple Yes or No rating.  —[[User:Stephen Ewen|Stephen Ewen]] [[User talk:Stephen Ewen|(Talk)]] 23:35, 9 August 2007 (CDT)
I'd be happy if this turned to just a simple Yes or No rating.  —[[User:Stephen Ewen|Stephen Ewen]] [[User talk:Stephen Ewen|(Talk)]] 23:35, 9 August 2007 (CDT)

Revision as of 02:12, 10 August 2007

I think the watch rating scheme should be developed in full as shown on the article page for this discussion page. But in the early stages, I think it should be implemented in a much-reduced way.

Possibly have only one category to start, reserved for articles that need special attention because they've been involved in some controversy. See how that works, and as things develop, implement the more detailed scheme. Louis F. Sander 14:31, 5 June 2007 (CDT)

For me, the Low-Watch rating is every bit as important as the other ratings, to allow fair use media to placed into article PRIOR them being nominated for approval. Stephen Ewen 15:26, 5 June 2007 (CDT)

Fair-use media?

Stephen - I have only just now started noticing the new proposal for controversy ratings, and I do not understand what the concern is regarding fair-use media. I'll admit I haven't gone over all the forum postings and discussion pages. Can you please explain the specific concern? Anthony Argyriou 20:34, 9 August 2007 (CDT)

It's easiest if we just take an example. Let's say someone writes a biography of a highly controversial living person and wants it to contain fair use images and they add some. Before it is approved, while it is being drafted, it may on some days contain material that is just not neutral but, material that is a partisan slug fest. Now let's say, on that day, the subject or his or her representatives finds the CZ article, in that state, AND with fair use images they own. I think I do not need to carry this story out further, but you get the idea. Whether fair use is challenged or not often hinges on whether the use of the material is offensive use to the copyright holder. Better to just avoid that and say, for controversial articles, no fair use until they are nominated for approval. See?  —Stephen Ewen (Talk) 23:34, 9 August 2007 (CDT)

I'd be happy if this turned to just a simple Yes or No rating.  —Stephen Ewen (Talk) 23:35, 9 August 2007 (CDT)