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::This is a tough call. In the narrow social sciences, Marx's contribution is I think in the order Politics, Sociology, Economics. History is clearly a major component -- not only because of his historical importance, but also because of the role of history in his own writings. Arguably, his account of the transition from feudalism to capitalism was the best thing he wrote. And, yes, he also has a role in philosophy. How to prioritise? I have no idea. --[[User:Martin Baldwin-Edwards|Martin Baldwin-Edwards]] 13:48, 20 October 2007 (CDT)
::This is a tough call. In the narrow social sciences, Marx's contribution is I think in the order Politics, Sociology, Economics. History is clearly a major component -- not only because of his historical importance, but also because of the role of history in his own writings. Arguably, his account of the transition from feudalism to capitalism was the best thing he wrote. And, yes, he also has a role in philosophy. How to prioritise? I have no idea. --[[User:Martin Baldwin-Edwards|Martin Baldwin-Edwards]] 13:48, 20 October 2007 (CDT)
:::History comes in because he had an enormous influence on historiography. Economics on the other hand --he had little influence there. ("a minor ricardian" as Samuleson says.) In 2007 among active scholars I would guess he is best represented in literature departments!  The problem is that the coding system allows only three categories. The solution is to chnage a line or two of code and make that 5 categories. [[User:Richard Jensen|Richard Jensen]] 14:19, 20 October 2007 (CDT)
:::History comes in because he had an enormous influence on historiography. Economics on the other hand --he had little influence there. ("a minor ricardian" as Samuleson says.) In 2007 among active scholars I would guess he is best represented in literature departments!  The problem is that the coding system allows only three categories. The solution is to chnage a line or two of code and make that 5 categories. [[User:Richard Jensen|Richard Jensen]] 14:19, 20 October 2007 (CDT)
== who studies Marx? ==
Which disciplines pay most attention to Marx? I looked at the most recent 50 articles (including book reviews) in JSTOR with "Karl Marx: in the title. Here's the list of journals.  I think politics and history clearly predominate, with Sociology 3rd and philosophy training behind.
#American Ethnologist > Vol. 12, No. 1 (F
#American Ethnologist > Vol. 14, No. 4 (N
#American Journal of Political Science >
#Assemblage > No. 41 (Apr., 2000), p. 21
#Canadian Journal of Political Science /
#Canadian Journal of Sociology / Cahiers
#Comparative Studies in Society and History >
#Contemporary Sociology > Vol. 13, No. 6
#Contemporary Sociology > Vol. 13, No. 6
#Critical Inquiry > Vol. 28, No. 2 (Winte
#Europe-Asia Studies > Vol. 49, No. 8 (De
#German Studies Review > Vol. 12, No. 2 (
#International Political Science Review /
#Journal of Interdisciplinary History > V
#Latin American Perspectives > Vol. 27, N
#Man > New Series, Vol. 20, No. 1 (Mar.,
#MELUS > Vol. 28, No. 2, Haunted by History (S
#Modern Judaism > Vol. 4, No. 3 (Oct., 19
#New German Critique > No. 82,
#Noûs > Vol. 22, No. 3 (Sep., 1988), pp.
#Perspectives on Politics > Vol. 1, No. 1
#Philosophy > Vol. 63, No. 246 (Oct., 198
#Political Psychology > Vol. 5, No. 3 (Se
#Political Theory > Vol. 12, No. 4 (Nov.,
#Political Theory > Vol. 28, No. 4 (Aug.,
#Polity > Vol. 22, No. 2 (Winter, 1989),
#Reviews in American History > Vol. 22, N
#Shakespeare Quarterly > Vol. 43, No. 3 (
#Slavic Review > Vol. 43, No. 4 (Winter,
#Social Scientist > Vol. 12, No. 9 (Sep.,
#Social Studies of Science > Vol. 20, No.
#Sociological Analysis > Vol. 46, No. 2 (
#Soviet Studies > Vol. 37, No. 1 (Jan., 1
#Teaching German > Vol. 19, No. 2 (Autumn
#Technology and Culture > Vol. 29, No. 2
#The American Historical Review > Vol. 95
#The American Historical Review > Vol. 94
#The American Historical Review > Vol. 92
#The American Historical Review > Vol. 90
#The American Journal of Sociology > Vol.
#The Economic Journal > Vol. 103, No. 416
#The English Historical Review > Vol. 107
#The History Teacher > Vol. 29, No. 3 (Ma
#The Journal of Modern History > Vol. 69,
#The Journal of Modern History > Vol. 62,
#The Journal of Modern History > Vol. 62,
#The Journal of Politics > Vol. 48, No. 2
#The Journal of Religion > Vol. 66, No. 2
#Theatre Journal > Vol. 42, No. 3, Women
#Theory and Society > Vol. 22, No. 3 (Jun
# [[User:Richard Jensen|Richard Jensen]] 14:34, 20 October 2007 (CDT)

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Richard, sorry, but Marx is obviously a philosopher first and foremost, and an economist. Those are the subjects that he wrote about and is famous for. He also really belongs in politics because of his foremost position as the political theoretician of the left. He had a great impact on history, obviously, but via his impact on philosophy, economics, and politics. The leading experts about Marx are not historians, but philosophers, economists, and political theorists. --Larry Sanger 13:29, 20 October 2007 (CDT)

Larry--let's your experts handle this one please. Let the philosphers contribute but so far they have not made a contribution here. As fir the economists, he's a minor figure as the article explains. Richard Jensen 13:44, 20 October 2007 (CDT)

This is a tough call. In the narrow social sciences, Marx's contribution is I think in the order Politics, Sociology, Economics. History is clearly a major component -- not only because of his historical importance, but also because of the role of history in his own writings. Arguably, his account of the transition from feudalism to capitalism was the best thing he wrote. And, yes, he also has a role in philosophy. How to prioritise? I have no idea. --Martin Baldwin-Edwards 13:48, 20 October 2007 (CDT)
History comes in because he had an enormous influence on historiography. Economics on the other hand --he had little influence there. ("a minor ricardian" as Samuleson says.) In 2007 among active scholars I would guess he is best represented in literature departments! The problem is that the coding system allows only three categories. The solution is to chnage a line or two of code and make that 5 categories. Richard Jensen 14:19, 20 October 2007 (CDT)

who studies Marx?

Which disciplines pay most attention to Marx? I looked at the most recent 50 articles (including book reviews) in JSTOR with "Karl Marx: in the title. Here's the list of journals. I think politics and history clearly predominate, with Sociology 3rd and philosophy training behind.

  1. American Ethnologist > Vol. 12, No. 1 (F
  2. American Ethnologist > Vol. 14, No. 4 (N
  3. American Journal of Political Science >
  4. Assemblage > No. 41 (Apr., 2000), p. 21
  5. Canadian Journal of Political Science /
  6. Canadian Journal of Sociology / Cahiers
  7. Comparative Studies in Society and History >
  8. Contemporary Sociology > Vol. 13, No. 6
  9. Contemporary Sociology > Vol. 13, No. 6
  10. Critical Inquiry > Vol. 28, No. 2 (Winte
  11. Europe-Asia Studies > Vol. 49, No. 8 (De
  12. German Studies Review > Vol. 12, No. 2 (
  13. International Political Science Review /
  14. Journal of Interdisciplinary History > V
  15. Latin American Perspectives > Vol. 27, N
  16. Man > New Series, Vol. 20, No. 1 (Mar.,
  17. MELUS > Vol. 28, No. 2, Haunted by History (S
  18. Modern Judaism > Vol. 4, No. 3 (Oct., 19
  19. New German Critique > No. 82,
  20. Noûs > Vol. 22, No. 3 (Sep., 1988), pp.
  21. Perspectives on Politics > Vol. 1, No. 1
  22. Philosophy > Vol. 63, No. 246 (Oct., 198
  23. Political Psychology > Vol. 5, No. 3 (Se
  24. Political Theory > Vol. 12, No. 4 (Nov.,
  25. Political Theory > Vol. 28, No. 4 (Aug.,
  26. Polity > Vol. 22, No. 2 (Winter, 1989),
  27. Reviews in American History > Vol. 22, N
  28. Shakespeare Quarterly > Vol. 43, No. 3 (
  29. Slavic Review > Vol. 43, No. 4 (Winter,
  30. Social Scientist > Vol. 12, No. 9 (Sep.,
  31. Social Studies of Science > Vol. 20, No.
  32. Sociological Analysis > Vol. 46, No. 2 (
  33. Soviet Studies > Vol. 37, No. 1 (Jan., 1
  34. Teaching German > Vol. 19, No. 2 (Autumn
  35. Technology and Culture > Vol. 29, No. 2
  36. The American Historical Review > Vol. 95
  37. The American Historical Review > Vol. 94
  38. The American Historical Review > Vol. 92
  39. The American Historical Review > Vol. 90
  40. The American Journal of Sociology > Vol.
  41. The Economic Journal > Vol. 103, No. 416
  42. The English Historical Review > Vol. 107
  43. The History Teacher > Vol. 29, No. 3 (Ma
  44. The Journal of Modern History > Vol. 69,
  45. The Journal of Modern History > Vol. 62,
  46. The Journal of Modern History > Vol. 62,
  47. The Journal of Politics > Vol. 48, No. 2
  48. The Journal of Religion > Vol. 66, No. 2
  49. Theatre Journal > Vol. 42, No. 3, Women
  50. Theory and Society > Vol. 22, No. 3 (Jun
  51. Richard Jensen 14:34, 20 October 2007 (CDT)