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==Todo==
Hey Robert,
Be sure to mark unused templates for deletion.  (Or, feel free to delete them if you have permissions to do so.) --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 12:07, 22 December 2007 (CST)

:I'm eventually going to do that after I sort them. --[[User:Robert W King|Robert W King]] 12:37, 22 December 2007 (CST)

::I think I'm pretty much done with media templates.  [[User:Stephen Ewen|Stephen Ewen]] 01:47, 23 December 2007 (CST)

:::Also the constabulary templates. [[User:Stephen Ewen|Stephen Ewen]] 01:47, 23 December 2007 (CST)

Nice work here.  Once I'm done grading I am going to try and upgrade the subpages template and then delete all the unnecesary stuff. When that is finished I'll write a description to descripe the functions of each tempalte, maybe draw a diagram too.. [[User:Chris Day|Chris Day]] [[User talk:Chris Day|(talk)]] 02:34, 23 December 2007 (CST)

:One suggestion is to organize content-oriented templates by Workgroup.  Another idea is to create a new Workgroup called the [[CZ:Technical Team Workgroup]] and place all of the design-oriented templates in it, such as for subpages. [[User:Stephen Ewen|Stephen Ewen]] 23:22, 23 December 2007 (CST)

::BTW, most of the technical team already functions as a workgroup. ;-)  This idea would just formalize it and open it up some, plus be helpful for recruiting. [[User:Stephen Ewen|Stephen Ewen]] 23:24, 23 December 2007 (CST)

;More rationale for Technical Team Workgroup
*Basically, under the Technical Lead, the workgroup would be a place to coordinate development of the software, inclusive of design, upon which CZ runs.  Currently this is handled too much off-wiki, so it is not very newcomer-friendly (you pretty much gotta be "in the know" right now).     
*Workgroup would be responsible over Technical help pages, like [[CZ:Treeview Extension]], and other such.  
*Would be a place contributors can go to for template creation and design help, e.g., "I need help making a template that features V, W, X, Y and Z for the ''Catalog of Gold Medalist Couples Figure Skaters''".
*Would be a "home" for ''project-wide'' templates that merely ''organizes'' content, e.g., {{Tl|Subpages}}.
*Basically, if it makes ''the software'' or some ''design feature'' or user-friendliness feature of it better, this it the home for it, e.g., [[CZ:How to start a new article]], and even the [[CZ:Upload-Wizard]].

[[User:Stephen Ewen|Stephen Ewen]] 00:46, 25 December 2007 (CST)

==Phases for CZ:Templates==

*<s>Phase 1- Identify templates</s> '''Completed.'''
*Phase 2- Sort/Seperate '''<BIG>THE END IS IN VIEW!!!</BIG>'''
**Phase 2a - Sort by function groups
*Phase 3- Document template functionality
**3A- <s>Create "Template Docmentation Template" to be used when creating new templates</s> '''Done in advance.'''
**3B- Document process behind 3A
*Phase 4- Create guidelines for new templates
*Phase 5-

==Overlap==

There seems to be a certain amount of overlap between "Infoboxes", "Formatting" (subgroup 'data display') and "Navigation" (subgroup 'inside CZ'). Please note that this [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=CZ:Templates&oldid=100275498 precedes] my recent attempt to add a bit more structure, which did not (in general) move stuff among these three groups a lot.

I would suggest the following rules for which goes where, and if these are acceptable, we can sort things into these three bins on these criteria:
* 'Infoboxes' should contains all templates which are intended to display data about the current subject. So, e.g. {{tl|Virus taxon}} would be there, not in 'Formatting'.
* 'Formatting' would be used to hold templates used to display individual instances of generic data-types, in a common format across articles. So things like {{tl|Height}}, {{tl|Utc}} would go there.
* 'Navigation' would hold templates intended to allow navigation among groups of articles, so things like {{tl|Editor Policy}} and {{tl|Constellations_iau}} would go there.
Sure, this won't be perfect, but it will give us some guidelines as to what goes where. [[User:J. Noel Chiappa|J. Noel Chiappa]] 17:24, 2 June 2008 (CDT)

== Suggestions / Questions here ==

--[[User:Robert W King|Robert W King]] 11:44, 9 January 2008 (CST)